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sororsrca
sororsrca Sep 28 '15
"I feel the more information we can learn off of one another, the more we can accept and realize we are on different journeys, and perhaps get a feel of free-will and thinking due to all the many ways we choose to build our paths"
I think after reading all the pages, it comes back to this point above. Although I did find the posts informative and entertaining :)
Shawn
Shawn Oct 15 '15
Somehow I missed this quote from the Devil's Notebook all these years. I can now conclusively say that LaVey was up to what I thought he was up to when he created Satanism:


My brand of Satanism is the ultimate conscious alternative to herd mentality and institutionalized thought.It is a studied and contrived set of principles and exercises designed to liberate individuals from a contagion of mindlessness that destroys innovation. I have termed my thought "Satanism" because it is most stimulating under that name. Self-discipline and motivation are effected more easily under stimulating conditions. Satanism means "the opposition" and epitomizes all symbols of nonconformity. Satanism calls forth the strong ability to turn a liability into an advantage, to turn alienation into exclusivity. In other words, the reason it's called Satanism is because it's fun, it's accurate, and it's productive."

-- Anton LaVey



Shawn
Shawn Oct 16 '15
Odd, I sometimes I think Satanism is all about Stan. But usually that's a typo.
Troll Member
Troll Oct 21 '15

DEMONIC SATANISM, ITS DOGMAS, VALUES, AND INTERESTS


It is pleasant and respectful to start out asking about Satanism by asking about personal views, because there is no necessity for defending them. Beliefs like this can be axiomatic and without basis except in vision or strict experience.


I. VIEWS AND BELIEFS OF DEMONIC SATANISTS


As i have created Demonic Satanism, what follows are the fundamentals which i no longer find valuable to debate or argue (i don't mind if people do that, but i am no longer engaging it with them aside from completely hypothetical and philosophic whimsy, a continued exercise of rationalist inquiry that lies outside the bounds of Demonic Satanism as i conceive of and construct it).


A. UNCHANGING NATURAL FACETS


The first 5 items are, as situated within Demonic Satanism, dogmas, axiomatic (though one might, as i have, deduce or support them to exclusion). They don't change regardless of the fact that we might challenge, question, analyze, or imagine them to be different, and for those interested in following Demonic Satanism as i am laying it out, they are dogmas whose nature is fixed and unchanging.


1. REALITY -- Reality existed long before our perceptions and consciousness and will continue to do so long after we dissolve back into basic fundaments. It is not dependent upon our minds, but determines our reactions and consciousness at a deep level. It might be fun, even experientially valuable for entertainment, or for motivation, to imagine all manner of fantasy reality, but what we can actually observe is far more important than what we may want or imagine. Being part of the real, our perceptions and imagination participate in it but don't directly determine it. Our perceptions or interests don't influence time, the fact that we're animals, or death, only our experience as such.


2. TIME -- Time is real and unidirectional, we are animals who shall age at a rate that is easily predictable, supplemented by our medical sciences. Time passes at the same rate regardless of what happens to our animal bodies. We can observe from the replication of clocks that time is not generally flexible. We have a temporal system (Greenwich Mean) which is functional because time is stable and constant.


3. ANIMALS -- We're animals. We get fucked into existence, grow, and do the best we can, and then run out of health, stop functioning organically, and dissolve. There's no afterlife, no reincarnation, and this life is the whole wad: one finite animal lifetime. There are variations in skills or qualities which animals have, and we may learn about these and find value in this learning.


4. BODILY MIND -- Consciousness and the elements of it are facilitated by our bodies but have real components we are still examining which are part of, or manifest as part of consciousness, such as emotions, thoughts, intuition, ghosts, spirits, elementals, fairies, demons, and gods.


5. DEATH -- Death is real and inevitable. We shall all die as finite organisms and our experience and consciousness, which are facilitated by our bodies, will terminate at that point in time.


B. VARIABLES AND OPTIONS


What follows in items 6 through 8 are dogmas about what are created by each individual and which may have specific requirement within Demonic Satanism based on my preferences or what i have found is optimizing for those like me.


6. VIEWS AND BELIEFS -- Views and beliefs differ throughout the species and time. None are sacrosanct or required except by demogogues and dictators, religious credalists, and those whose qualities of mind find it imperative for pragmatic or cultic interests to direct in their followers or require so as to associate. In Demonic Satanism, it is considered merely expedient that its beliefs (these here outlined) are agreed to as a prerequisite for alliance or identification. This avoids wasting time disputing matters better left to personal solution outside this context (philosophy and rational pursuits are in fact valued, but outside the perimeter of this cult). Other, competing, views and beliefs are regarded simply as 'outside Demonic Satanism' and afforded no particular quality (such as falsity or heresy) except incompatability.


7. VALUES AND MEANING -- In a general sense, biology may provide us with common human values and meaning, yet none are pervasive and shared as a species. Moreover, as we age and become educated, our values may change and transform, experience and perception contributing their adjustments or refinements. While certain derivative values may be concluded as dogmatic based on the dogmas of Demonic Satanism heretofore outlined (e.g. as animals without souls destined to live a single finite life and then die and disintegrate; see Section C. below), those not based on these dogmas will always beleft to the individual rather than dictated by the cult. Which of these values might be so derived based on the dogmas are at this time subject to dispute, the whole of practical application is at least presently left to selection by the individual adherent.


8. SATANISM AND ITS SELECTION -- Typically as a function of joining the Left-Hand Path modality, or for some other reason such as having been inculcated against it by one's family or early instructors, Satanism is engaged within an anti-satanic context, such as a Christian or Muslim culture, projecting a cosmic adversary (Satan) and using this for its purpose. Having for centuries described the 'religion fomented by Satan', and thenceforward used this by projection as a justification for bludgeoning perceived cultural adversaries, as a natural consequence of this activity this projected fantasy has now come into being. Those who pursue it do so in the form which they select or invent, because the actualities of Satanism per se emphasize individualism and freedom rather than constraint to follow the dictates of one's religious fellows. Therefore, a dogma of Demonic Satanism is that what constitutes Satanism must not compromise these qualities (e.g. it must not ally with that which subsumes the individual beneath the boot of the Herd, compromises the freedom of selecting a Satanism of one's choosing, or identifies Satanism as the exclusive property or consequence of a singular source outside of oneself).


C. PARTICULAR VALUES AND INTERESTS


9. DEMONIC SATANISM -- 

a) NATURAL SCIENCE -- As animals with a finite lifetime, becoming aware of the principles of the natural world that affect us, limit us, and provide leverage for us in pursuit of our desires is an obvious value. Those who fail to do this will find ourselves dependent upon those who succeed at it. This includes a study of biology and anthropology, the tendencies of our species (e.g. habits, addictions, customs and traditions, etc.) as well as our own heredity; and the characteristics of that which undermines us (e.g. bacteria and viruses involved in illness, inherited weaknesses) or provides us with support (e.g. motivational platforms, inherited aptitudes, etc.).


b) SOCIOLOGY AND POLITICS -- As our species reproduces without real inhibition and we become, by birth, geographic location, and affiliation, participants in social systems (native or adoptive family, local community, citizen of a nation), it is to our distinct advantage to become aware of the social protocols, laws and customs, which affect us, limit us, and provide leverage for us in pursuit of our desires. Those who fail to do this may find ourselves subjected to penalty, from fines and a destabilized lifestyle to incarceration and execution.


c) HISTORY OF DEMONOLOGY AND SATANISM -- As a groundwork for pursuit of Demonic Satanism, developing an understanding of what has come before in the construction or discovery of demons and the invention and practice of Satanism may be advantageous. The development of bibliographies such as may be found here:

-- 1. "Satanism Bibliography: Religious Satanism and Demonolatry"

https://www.satanservice.org/satanism-bibliography/

-- 2. "Satanism Bibliography"

https://www.satanservice.org/satanism-bibliography.html


and the details as to what can be known about actual Satanists listed here:

-- 1. "Field Guide to Satanism: Real Religious Satanists, Criminal Satanists, and Celebrity Satanists"

https://www.satanservice.org/wiki/Field_Guide_to_Satanism

-- 2. "List of Satanists"

https://www.satanservice.org/wiki/List_of_Satanists


constitute exemplary initial study aids in such an interest and pursuit.


At this point i leave off description of Demonic Satanism as particularly determined by the tastes or predilections of the individual, without recommendation as to specific disciplines or goals, and welcome comment on the whole.


Troll Towelhead, Grand Mufti of Satanism

and Expositor of Demonic Satanism

The Forum post is edited by Troll Oct 21 '15
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