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Wolfie
Wolfie Jul 19 '21
That anyone believed the ONA was really doing human sacrifices is hilarious to me.


To paraphrase a famous saying: "The first rule of human sacrifices is: You do not talk about human sacrifices."

  

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 19 '21
Quote from Wolfie

To paraphrase a famous saying: "The first rule of human sacrifices is: You do not talk about human sacrifices." 


Human sacrifices can manifest in different ways also. For instance LaVey talk about ideal human sacrifice which is the use of voodoo dolls you then stab and burn in ritual...
Baphomets Mod
Baphomets Jul 19 '21
Tom, all you have is Lavey this, Lavey that. I bet you wish you could really lick his asshole good. Lavey probably would be prouder of you if you didn't use his words as scripture and call yourself a satanist. At the very least, his words and thinking should have opened the doors of your mind to think for yourself for once, like "satanists" tend to do.
Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jul 19 '21

Quote from Baphomets Tom, all you have is Lavey this, Lavey that. I bet you wish you could really lick his asshole good. Lavey probably would be prouder of you if you didn't use his words as scripture and call yourself a satanist. At the very least, his words and thinking should have opened the doors of your mind to think for yourself for once, like "satanists" tend to do.
No. Once you've changed planes in Dallas Ft. Worth you can speak about Texas. It has the flag, cowboy souvenirs, a tram thing, and a BBQ. 


Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 19 '21
Quote from Baphomets Tom, all you have is Lavey this, Lavey that. I bet you wish you could really lick his asshole good. Lavey probably would be prouder of you if you didn't use his words as scripture and call yourself a satanist. At the very least, his words and thinking should have opened the doors of your mind to think for yourself for once, like "satanists" tend to do.

If LaVey did not codified Satanism then someone else would have done it and I believe I would have done it better because I see some problems in LaVey's way of introducing people to Satanism. In my analysis of TSB LaVey could have done a lot different that would prevent creating so many pseudo-Satanists. He was not so smart as some claim him to be.
Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jul 19 '21

Quote from Tom RiddleI believe I would have done it better because I see some problems in LaVey's way of introducing people to Satanism. In my analysis of TSB LaVey could have done a lot different that would prevent creating so many pseudo-Satanists
Such as?


Pontificate, Magus of Prentention.


What would you have done differently than LaVey in codifying Satanism to sift out the posers? 


Like the Might Is Right paraphrasing in the "The Book of Satan"  section is contentious, what would you do with the more obvious instances of influence and homage? Especially in the first half. 


Bottom line, if you picked one part to focus on to get people to understand Satanism, what would it be? 

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 19 '21
Quote from Dark Enlightenment Such as?


Pontificate, Magus of Prentention.


What would you have done differently than LaVey in codifying Satanism to sift out the posers? 


Like the Might Is Right paraphrasing in the "The Book of Satan"  section is contentious, what would you do with the more obvious instances of influence and homage? Especially in the first half. 


Bottom line, if you picked one part to focus on to get people to understand Satanism, what would it be? 


I would have removed the 9 satanic statements and use Book of Satan to just quote som bible and quran verses where Satan appears, what he says and do etc. If the reader was a Satanist he would have thought "that's like what I myself would have done". if he was not a Satanist he would just think "nonsense, what a waste of time to read".


Book of Lucifer is ok but the only problem is that there is to much "in oppose to..." thing, meaning that LaVey makes Satanism dependent on Christianity. I would talk about things in society from a satanic perspective without giving shit about Christianity and I would not make claim that reincarnation believers all believe they were something great in past life nor would I say that there is only carnal because that's a claim and has nothing to do with Satanism. Just because the Satanist's primary interest is carnal pleasures does not necessary mean he rejects the existence of a possible spiritual reality because then he would just be like the believers...



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Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jul 19 '21
Well, that is an answer.


I encourage you to do more.  Codify it like other posters do with their blogs and videos.  You want to be considered a knowledable contributor become a knowledgeable contributor. 


I want your version like "your peers" are putting forth. I have my own version, and a contested one at that, but I'll still throw mine out there first.


Do a post or blog with your intro to immediately get to the bullet point of your satanism. 


Something like: 


In Western Civilization there is a ubiquitous characteristic of its inhabitants that exposes itself during adversity.  It is the ultimate litmus test of wiring. One that will only become clear when you have seemingly nothing to turn to or nothing to lose. It looks up to the heavens and turns to faith... or cannot do anything approaching that. 


So where are you? You living phenomenally or too far in the land of ideas, idols, archetypes, psychodramas, and aesthetics to live without artificial confidence or fend for your will in real time? You need a guidebook? A map for the terrain you'll have to tread through anyway? It's an apprehension that tests epistemology at its foundation.


 It's the anarchism on the spectrum of social conscience, duty. It's the solitude on the spectrum of social dependence. And it's the rationalwiki on the spectrum of social superstition and fear. 


It would continue on as such. 


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Anna
Anna Jul 20 '21

Quote from Tom Riddle
Because ONA was a joke. 

The funniest thing about it is that they have to put a lot of effort into appearing as a joke. You, on the other hand, don't have to do anything to look and sound like a joke. It comes naturally to you. While all the resident trolls have to work hard to put up a reality internet show, you just begin to type and everyone has free tech lulz. I mean your clownery is a piece of art because it's spontaneous and effortless. How are you doing this? I guess you must be really gifted. And shit you didn't even finish an elementary school. What does that say about all the clowns who have a university degree?


Please try to outsmart the circus worker, Mr LaVey, by codifying your version of Satanism. The audience is waiting.

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 20 '21
Quote from Anna 

The funniest thing about it is that they have to put a lot of effort into appearing as a joke. You, on the other hand, don't have to do anything to look and sound like a joke. It comes naturally to you. While all the resident trolls have to work hard to put up a reality internet show, you just begin to type and everyone has free tech lulz. I mean your clownery is a piece of art because it's spontaneous and effortless. How are you doing this? I guess you must be really gifted. And shit you didn't even finish an elementary school. What does that say about all the clowns who have a university degree?


Please try to outsmart the circus worker, Mr LaVey, by codifying your version of Satanism. The audience is waiting.


It's good if I have potential to make people happy with comedy but I doubt that you really are happy by my comedy.
Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 20 '21
Quote from Anna 

Please try to outsmart the circus worker, Mr LaVey, by codifying your version of Satanism. The audience is waiting.


No, because it's not enough to write a new satanic bible. It takes a lot of energy and passion to do the 2 things that needs to be done. I need to create a church dedicated to Satan having a nude woman as altar who don't have tattoos (which is impossible in 2021). LaVey wrote TSB first 3 years after the creation of COS. 
Anna
Anna Jul 20 '21

Quote from Tom Riddle
No, because it's not enough to write a new satanic bible. It takes a lot of energy and passion to do the 2 things that needs to be done. I need to create a church dedicated to Satan having a nude woman as altar who don't have tattoos (which is impossible in 2021). LaVey wrote TSB first 3 years after the creation of COS. 

I can serve as your altar. I swear I have no tattoos but you can check. Not sure if I could make your vodoo rooster do "cock-a-doodle-doo" but since you're not really into sex, it doesn't matter. We will write a new Satanic Bible together. It will be a masterpiece.

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 20 '21
Quote from Anna
Quote from Tom Riddle
No, because it's not enough to write a new satanic bible. It takes a lot of energy and passion to do the 2 things that needs to be done. I need to create a church dedicated to Satan having a nude woman as altar who don't have tattoos (which is impossible in 2021). LaVey wrote TSB first 3 years after the creation of COS. 

I can serve as your altar. I swear I have no tattoos but you can check. Not sure if I could make your vodoo rooster do "cock-a-doodle-doo" but since you're not really into sex, it doesn't matter. We will write a new Satanic Bible together. It will be a masterpiece.


LOL.
Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jul 20 '21

No, his church is The MGTOW variation and has no use for live nude altars and other excuses to see a bunch of naked chicks like CoS and Game of Thrones.


So he obviously wouldn't be after something like this: 




And if he was going to pose for such a photo he'd have to get multiple sex dolls and position them with fishing line. 


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AlexTheTerrible
AlexTheTerrible Jul 20 '21
@Baphomets Well said.
AlexTheTerrible
AlexTheTerrible Jul 20 '21
@Tom Riddle "If LaVey did not codified Satanism then someone else would have done it and I believe I would have done it better because I see some problems in LaVey's way of introducing people to Satanism."


Then write a book. You have mentioned the issue before, so some of us hope that you write a book. Are you all about action or bull shit? Aquino, Jason King, have all written books of their own views surrounding Satanism. I encourage you to start writing something down, if you really want to "codify Satanism."

AlexTheTerrible
AlexTheTerrible Jul 20 '21
@Tom Riddle "In my analysis of TSB LaVey could have done a lot different that would prevent creating so many pseudo-Satanists."


What do you exactly mean by "pseudo-Satanists?" I bet you're implying those who have stepped out of Satanism and evolved from there by creating successful organizations that does a lot better than the current COS. That is what the Left Hand Path should be all about "Self directed-self evolution." But you probably do not accept that statement, instead you play along by trying to show off your sophistication on the forums, while most of us already know you.

Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 20 '21
Quote from Dark Enlightenment

No, his church is The MGTOW variation and has no use for live nude altars and other excuses to see a bunch of naked chicks like CoS and Game of Thrones.


So he obviously wouldn't be after something like this: 




And if he was going to pose for such a photo he'd have to get multiple sex dolls and position them with fishing line. 



Funny you mentioned sex dolls. I forgot that possibility. A sex doll could be representative for Mother Earth.

I do like the chicks on the picture.

AlexTheTerrible
AlexTheTerrible Jul 20 '21
@Tom Riddle "He was not so smart as some claim him to be."


Please explain the why to us in your own words.

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Tom Riddle
Tom Riddle Jul 20 '21
Quote from AlexTheTerrible

What do you exactly mean by "pseudo-Satanists?" 


There are many people who pretends to be Satanist because they are either attention whores, have a political or religious cause above the self or because they are reverse Christians who are mentally ill. 


Quote from AlexTheTerriblethere by creating successful organizations that does a lot better than the current COS. That is what the Left Hand Path should be all about "Self directed-self evolution." But you probably do not accept that statement, instead you play along by trying to show off your sophistication on the forums, while most of us already know you.

What you don't seems go get is that LHP and religion do not contradict each other. In fact LHP is a religious philosophy as it's rooted in hinduism. Being a Satanist is a personality trait and the satanic religion serves to preserve a connection or cooperation between individual with that personality traits. Without the satanic religion there would be no need for the archetype of Satan. 





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