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Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Feb 14 '22
Re : Come Out!

 


 

Edit : I like the Diana Ross better though. It looks like the same kid that played Tommy in the Dreamscape movie from the 80s. One could be forgiven for confusing him with a younger Sean Penn.

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AlexTheTerrible
AlexTheTerrible Feb 19 '22

Quote from MatthewJ1

 

Anyway, enough – the elites cannot be defeated EVER. Elites just change and reconfigure themselves as enormous social change takes place. For better or worse we have to deal with the elites as they currently are. I think it is a component of the satanic worldview to face reality and deal with it as it actually is right now.

 

Right on, 2. "Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams."  I've noticed from reading a few political books by the 1% of honest politicians that they rather live within their own spiritual pipe dreams over their political ideology. The more I come across of seeing the typical political ideological talk of, "taking down the elite, with the help of the American people" from these small honest politicians, the more I roll my eyes. It goes back to the Nietzschean concept of having the Elite/intellectuals/nobles separate from the mediocre in order to make the society stable by having the elite's evolve as higher types. This is coming from his book "The Anti-Christ." Which goes back to your saying of the Elite's re configuring themselves and changing through that social change within society.


It will always be the intellectuals evolving within that Nietzschean concept above the mediocre through that will to power.

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MatthewJ1
MatthewJ1 Feb 19 '22

Yeah, I have recently been re-reading Section 9 in ‘Beyond Good and Evil’ by Nietzsche where he discusses the differences between the Master Morality and the Slave Morality. That discussion takes place in the section titled: 'What is Noble?' It’s interesting stuff. I’m also re-reading the Ford edition of Mein Kampf. Hitler wasn’t the greatest writer, but his views on the primal laws of nature as hierarchical and for lack of a better word “Darwinian” is pretty essential stuff. One can learn a great deal from Nietzsche and Hitler, though their lessons are never for the faint of heart.

 

This conversation here reminded me of ‘The Occult Technology of Power,’ authored by a Church of Satan member, Peter McAlpine, in the 1970s. Michael Aquino liked and reviewed the book on Amazon US. Apparently Anton LaVey had referred to that book as an economic Satanic Bible. It’s pretty good.

 

The McAlpine book has a lot to do with describing the nature and operation of elites in modernity. The ability to conjure the money supply out of thin air is a truly magical process. To be able to allocate the money supply is real power and the processes are occult and the domain of specialized expertise. The process is obscured or mystified in terms of its operation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC0G7pY4wRE

 

To understand such occult knowledge as economics and finance is important, I think. I have watched a few programs where people tried to understand the way derivatives work and have not really understood. A point was made that those who work with such obscure arcane financial instruments are usually specialists with degrees in mathematics or even science. It is just more occult knowledge, used by a priesthood, who associate with elites, and who may end up becoming elite themselves.

 

 

 

ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 22 '22

Quote from MatthewJ1

Yeah, I have recently been re-reading Section 9 in ‘Beyond Good and Evil’ by Nietzsche where he discusses the differences between the Master Morality and the Slave Morality. That discussion takes place in the section titled: 'What is Noble?' It’s interesting stuff. I’m also re-reading the Ford edition of Mein Kampf. Hitler wasn’t the greatest writer, but his views on the primal laws of nature as hierarchical and for lack of a better word “Darwinian” is pretty essential stuff. One can learn a great deal from Nietzsche and Hitler, though their lessons are never for the faint of heart.

 

This conversation here reminded me of ‘The Occult Technology of Power,’ authored by a Church of Satan member, Peter McAlpine, in the 1970s. Michael Aquino liked and reviewed the book on Amazon US. Apparently Anton LaVey had referred to that book as an economic Satanic Bible. It’s pretty good.

 

The McAlpine book has a lot to do with describing the nature and operation of elites in modernity. The ability to conjure the money supply out of thin air is a truly magical process. To be able to allocate the money supply is real power and the processes are occult and the domain of specialized expertise. The process is obscured or mystified in terms of its operation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC0G7pY4wRE

 

To understand such occult knowledge as economics and finance is important, I think. I have watched a few programs where people tried to understand the way derivatives work and have not really understood. A point was made that those who work with such obscure arcane financial instruments are usually specialists with degrees in mathematics or even science. It is just more occult knowledge, used by a priesthood, who associate with elites, and who may end up becoming elite themselves.

 

 

 

I'd avoid the Ford translation though, the only officially released English version was the Stalag Edition. Also, he had a second book, clearly expanding upon many of the ideas explored in the first. As for the great master Nietzsche, I would also look at his book called the Antichrist, and if I may I'd suggest two works on the subject of Nietzsche:


And 


NIETZSCHE, PROPHET OF NAZISM : THE CULT OF THE SUPERMAN; Unveiling the Nazi  Secret Doctrine by Abir Taha


I can link you to pdfs I own myself if so needed. 


I always find it interesting how people try to white-wash parts of German history to "de-Nazify" it with dishonest arguments, luckily enough there are enough Jews honest enough to admit most people's worst fears. Other than Nietzsche, another influential philosopher was Heidegger, luckily nobody ever tried to white-wash him like they have Nietzsche and Jung.


And I agree that learning the methods and techniques of the current elites are of tantamount importance, even more than the power over finance and economics right now though is power over the technological requirement, networks, cloud technology, firewalls, etc. None of them can operate without this technology, which is why Indians, although having relatively low IQs, have projected themselves into a position of power in your country. Firstly by means of being overrepresented in the field of Information Technology, and secondly by means of nepotism which extends favoritism to only members of their own race and culture, which is obviously very natural.


IT is much like banking was in the olden times, looked down upon and thought of as insignificant by most, but just as the old world couldn't function without banking, the new world can't function without Information Technology. Why else has China, Russia and North Korea invested so heavily in government hacking divisions?


Have a good day my friend.

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MatthewJ1
MatthewJ1 Feb 24 '22

Thanks for the Nietzsche reading suggestions. They look interesting.

 

I always thought Walter Kaufmann’s book on Nietzsche was a pretty good one. I also have the 2 volume set on Nietzsche by Martin Heidegger. I want to read Nietzsche by Heidegger as it describes one great thinker assessing another great thinker. Unfortunately I have too many books and very little time.

 

The book by Gilles Deleuze called ‘Nietzsche and Philosophy’ is by far the most influential on my views. The second section dealing with the active and reactive is essential stuff for me.

https://antilogicalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/nietzsche-and-philosophy.pdf

 

A large part of my interpretation of the satanic ontology comes out of this work by Deleuze, on the active and reactive, as it appears in this book on Nietzsche. That interpretation is ultimately grounded in a sense of time as Becoming which comes out of Heraclitus and I think to some extent Martin Heidegger. In my view there is a will anchored to a subject, which underlies this Becoming and the field of differential force relations. Moreover, I think the imposition of Being upon Becoming is Satanism as a reified thing, whatever mask that Being as substance or presence wears.

 

I think it is true that evolution by natural selection is a subset of will to power, and further that we are an outcome of evolutionary biology and evolutionary psychology. At the very least "we," like Becoming, are a site where active and reactive forces are in continual contest. I think Freud implicitly followed Nietzsche deep inside our human Becoming/Being. Satan dwells within you.

ShovelFace
ShovelFace Mar 3 '22

Quote from MatthewJ1

Thanks for the Nietzsche reading suggestions. They look interesting.

 

I always thought Walter Kaufmann’s book on Nietzsche was a pretty good one. I also have the 2 volume set on Nietzsche by Martin Heidegger. I want to read Nietzsche by Heidegger as it describes one great thinker assessing another great thinker. Unfortunately I have too many books and very little time.

 

The book by Gilles Deleuze called ‘Nietzsche and Philosophy’ is by far the most influential on my views. The second section dealing with the active and reactive is essential stuff for me.

https://antilogicalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/nietzsche-and-philosophy.pdf

 

A large part of my interpretation of the satanic ontology comes out of this work by Deleuze, on the active and reactive, as it appears in this book on Nietzsche. That interpretation is ultimately grounded in a sense of time as Becoming which comes out of Heraclitus and I think to some extent Martin Heidegger. In my view there is a will anchored to a subject, which underlies this Becoming and the field of differential force relations. Moreover, I think the imposition of Being upon Becoming is Satanism as a reified thing, whatever mask that Being as substance or presence wears.

 

I think it is true that evolution by natural selection is a subset of will to power, and further that we are an outcome of evolutionary biology and evolutionary psychology. At the very least "we," like Becoming, are a site where active and reactive forces are in continual contest. I think Freud implicitly followed Nietzsche deep inside our human Becoming/Being. Satan dwells within you.

Excellent post my friend, many people that think like me consider Nietzsche and Heidegger to be two aspects that need to be integrated to understand the correct Germanic worldview. I've never personally read Deleuze's work, thank you for the link I will download and read. 


With regards to your analysis of Satan and the Self, I would say that your analysis is much like my own, you're closer to the O9A thought you seem opposed to than you'd like to admit. There was a Nexion within the Order of the Jarls of Balder, led by Stephen Cox a homosexual Freemason very close to David Myatt and the O9A, called the Fraternity of Loki, who did excellent work on post-Satanic philosophy. Michael Aquino had a similar reaction to Satanism, choosing to move away from the Semitic aspect and realizing that although it was thought of as heretical in his Jew-Christian dominated society, in the older, more heathen times that kind of thinking wasn't adversarial or reactionary to another position, but was instead a natural mindset.


Stephen Flowers, a former member of Aquino's Temple of Set, has a similar perception, which is why he integrated the Antinomian philosophy into his heathen esotericism, which many who still think like retarded Christians, hold against him in the mainstream heathen sphere.



MatthewJ1
MatthewJ1 Mar 4 '22

Yes I am interested in the connection between Nietzsche and Heidegger, but moreover in the connections between a wide variety of thinkers. There is something appealing in the temporality/historicity/primordiality of Dasein and its horizon on the one hand and the timeliness and immanence of Nietszche’s position on the other hand. It is a vast different “ground.”

 

Satanism implies a satanic view of reality, and hence my interest is in that view of reality. I would build from that “ground” up. I mentioned my interest in Deleuze’s interpretation of Nietzsche’s philosophy and believe the interpretation between active and reactive forces and will to power is essential to the satanic view of reality. The below link may provide even more context around or underlying that.

 

https://iep.utm.edu/diff-ont/#SH2c

 

I am interested in O9A, but am concerned as “they” have a strange, dangerous and it seems self-defeating understanding of practical reason. It was Max Weber who drew the basic distinction between instrumental reason and value based reason. I think the O9As understanding of these forms of rationality is flawed. The use of a toolset like practical reason and the associated forms of rationality intrinsic to it should all be about me obtaining power and guaranteeing my survival. I don't think O9A necessarily do that. I think this individual Hermetic/alchemical quest they are on requires them to risk their survival and potentially relinquish their power. That concerns me...  

  

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