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MatthewJ1
MatthewJ1 Feb 9 '22

The elite what is it, from my point of view, at least?

 

The vast majority of the money supply is created out of thin air and allocated by private financial institutions. Money can be used for purposes like business investment, the creation of new goods and services, or money can be used for consumption or asset transactions, etc.

 

Obviously, at least it seems to me, that the ability to create and allocate money is an elite activity and this is particularly true when you consider the largest financial institutions and the enormous amounts of credit they create per annum for various purposes.

 

Who gets the money? Maybe you are borrowing to buy a car and maybe you are borrowing to buy a house. Large elite financial institutions lend to/do business with other large elite corporations on many occasions, including governments. All individuals and organizations need money to function.

 

There is a connection between financial institutions; businesses which employ many people and which generate huge profits for shareholders; governments who believe that the best way of securing a peaceful settled domestic social contract is to support those financial institutions who lend and those businesses who employ many people; a military intelligence industrial system which is a tool used to defend the national interest and open up, regulate and discipline foreign markets and influence and control foreign countries which possesses certain valuable resources, etc. This connection between these self-interested players is an elite connection composed of elitists, for elite purposes, regardless of any ideology created for mass consumption.    

 

If you are in a position to make large-scale decisions about investment, production and consumption then you are elite. It doesn’t really matter if you are in the business of money creation and allocation, or whether you are the one who is making the big decisions about what gets done in the society, or what gets made, or who gets employed in the society - you are elite. Same thing with the so called political class – the reason why powerful interests donate to political parties and hence control who gets elected and what they ultimately do is because politicians do have some power and they must be controlled. If you are a politician who has achieved a certain level of influence/control then you are a part of the elites. You have to be to have that level of influence/control. It is the same with the military and the intelligence community – ultimately “national security” becomes wedded to the concept of elite control as “good for us” and as “who we are” and hence must be defended.

 

Anyway, enough – the elites cannot be defeated EVER. Elites just change and reconfigure themselves as enormous social change takes place. For better or worse we have to deal with the elites as they currently are. I think it is a component of the satanic worldview to face reality and deal with it as it actually is right now.

 

ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 10 '22

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Quote from Anna What pisses me off personally are stupid decisions of stupid politicians. But it would be gross oversimplification to claim it all boils down to the Machiavellian strife for wealth, power and dominance. When it comes to politics, silly ideology, the wish to gain the electorate's approval at any price or simply ignorance and the lack of insight play a considerable role too.


Lex Talionis means primarily retributive justice. While it can be found among criminals or other people living on the margins of the society, the mainstream legal systems and also moral codes are contrary to it.

We both know politicians don't control anything, nor does the populace. Liberal democracy is the bread and games of our time.

Then you must be living in anarchy since you're making such oversimplifications.


Here, the government has an actual power. Sure, it's not absolute like in dictatorship but it's enough to fuck up some aspects of citizens' life. Often it's not even deliberate. Something about the road to hell being paved with good intentions. So yes, the politicians can screw you unless they receive a significant pushback in the form of mass street protests or dissent within their own party ranks.

It's not an oversimplification at all, the reality is that you're oversimplifying. How do politicians get funding for their campaigns? What are the conditions for that funding? Who do they owe? Who aren't you allowed to criticize without going to prison or having your life ruined by sheeple brainwashed into worshipping the supposed victimhood of a certain group? 


In essence politicians really are nothing but scapegoats, the rich control them, by means of loans and blackmail material. A very recent example is Jeffery Epstein, people went on his pedophile Island to fuck children for decades, and nobody said a thing about it until he shot himself in the foot too many times? How about the Clinton foundation? Haiti's president testified against them, you think you'll see it in your news? How about the fact that Trump was involved in a case pertaining to sex with a minor which he settled with money out of court? 

These people live above politicians, and even the very top political figures, such as Trump or Clinton, are all compromised by people like Epstein, it's a pretty old trick, used by mafias and the tribe for a very long time.

ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 10 '22

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A rather simplistic analysis, in reality the current predicament is the overpopulation relative to technological advancement. Very soon we'll be at a stage where most of the menial jobs you refer to will be automated, the problem which then arises is obviously that without employment you will have billions of people without the means to provide for themselves. 


This is where the utilitarian model becomes obsolete, because while what works best for the majority of the people may have worked in the past and not significantly hindered progress, with the current predicament the reality is that those nations that choose the utilitarian route, which resembles the creation of a consumer class reliant on universal income to do nothing but consume, will fall behind those that choose to eugenically eliminate large portions of their population.


So these pathetic "Western" countries will stand still and then collapse, whereas those willing to sacrifice for the sake of evolution, like the Chinese, will progress. 

You really are a smug motherfucker, aren't you? Like that dude that got banned a few months back. Granted, there may not be many similarities, but, it's the 'smugness', shining like a light within the dark. Look at me, I'm a smug motherfucker. 


I wasn't talking about Buck Rogers in the twenty fifth fuckin' century. I was talking about the past, present, and immediate future. I've been listening to clairvoyants predict a technologically automated future for the past several decades now, and guess what? I still order at the drive-thru, and they still pick my trash up every week.

  

A rather simplistic analysis? Yes, neither was I writing a research paper for the Pope or any other smug motherfucker. the truth is, a brief essay along with that particular video snippet pretty much came to me about the same time, and that's good enough for me, so you know what you can do with your snide remark?

  

Technology aside, it doesn't take a rocket scientist (nor clairvoyant) to conclude that population increase over a finite area will eventually lead to problems, and 'simple' is good - it can often be your friend. You know who often indulges in the complicated? People that don't know what the fuck they are talking about as if lead down some entropic road to chaos and confusion.

  

Anyway, words and predictions can be like "reservations", people can make them, and everyone has them, but of course no one can ever be absolutely certain what awaits them...    

  


   

Close enough.

 

Edit : It keeps turning my paragraphs into a wall of text and a bunch of other shit.

You haven't really refuted anything I've said, merely exposed your inferiority complex, it's not that I'm smug, I just value stimulating conversation which you're unfortunately not capable of formulating. But that shouldn't come as a surprise seeing as you want me to waste my time consuming cattle-level entertainment like Seinfeld so that you can play the sad clown. 


What does the sad clown do when there's nobody to entertain? Like a monkey at an airport doing backflips so that people can throw their handlers a nickel, that's what you are. Carry on little monkey, carry on.

ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 10 '22

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A rather simplistic analysis, in reality the current predicament is the overpopulation relative to technological advancement. Very soon we'll be at a stage where most of the menial jobs you refer to will be automated, the problem which then arises is obviously that without employment you will have billions of people without the means to provide for themselves. 


This is where the utilitarian model becomes obsolete, because while what works best for the majority of the people may have worked in the past and not significantly hindered progress, with the current predicament the reality is that those nations that choose the utilitarian route, which resembles the creation of a consumer class reliant on universal income to do nothing but consume, will fall behind those that choose to eugenically eliminate large portions of their population.


So these pathetic "Western" countries will stand still and then collapse, whereas those willing to sacrifice for the sake of evolution, like the Chinese, will progress. 

You really are a smug motherfucker, aren't you? Like that dude that got banned a few months back. Granted, there may not be many similarities, but, it's the 'smugness', shining like a light within the dark. Look at me, I'm a smug motherfucker. 


I wasn't talking about Buck Rogers in the twenty fifth fuckin' century. I was talking about the past, present, and immediate future. I've been listening to clairvoyants predict a technologically automated future for the past several decades now, and guess what? I still order at the drive-thru, and they still pick my trash up every week.

  

A rather simplistic analysis? Yes, neither was I writing a research paper for the Pope or any other smug motherfucker. the truth is, a brief essay along with that particular video snippet pretty much came to me about the same time, and that's good enough for me, so you know what you can do with your snide remark?

  

Technology aside, it doesn't take a rocket scientist (nor clairvoyant) to conclude that population increase over a finite area will eventually lead to problems, and 'simple' is good - it can often be your friend. You know who often indulges in the complicated? People that don't know what the fuck they are talking about as if lead down some entropic road to chaos and confusion.

  

Anyway, words and predictions can be like "reservations", people can make them, and everyone has them, but of course no one can ever be absolutely certain what awaits them...    

  


   

Close enough.

 

Edit : It keeps turning my paragraphs into a wall of text and a bunch of other shit.

Well said, CC.
Not really, you're simply offended, which is understandable since you grew in an echo chamber where everybody shares the same retarded ideas you do. Why don't you mention that your monkey friends are in fact beneficiaries of colonialism, both European and Islamic since both cultures introduced them to a higher quality of life, judging by the fact that they haven't reverted to their previous states of existence now that they've had the choice to. 


Take South Africa for example, they were literally running around half naked like savages with spears, living in straw and mud huts, committing genocide against one another (the greatest massacre in the history of South Africa was a Zulu ethnic cleansing of other black groups that themselves, just like the Zulu, invaded that land and killed off the Khoi). They didn't have an alphabet, most of their children would die of either starvation or disease, etc. In reality they subconsciously realize we've created a better life for them, regardless of whether they're plagued by an inferiority complex or we hurt their feelings, because once again they're beneficiaries of colonialism judging by the fact that they use what we've taught them, including our alphabets in most African countries.


https:///...09d83a5da743c025ab27


The above linked article is, as you probably know, about a video of a bunch of stupid cunts that thought they could go to a North African country and be safe, but only managed to get their heads cut off with blunt knives. Reason for mentioning? Because you probably won't have to wait so long because it's already commonplace in your country.


https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/09/19/alexis-saborit-now-charged-with-1st-degree-murder-in-girlfriends-beheading/



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Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Feb 10 '22

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Quote from Cornelius Coburn
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A rather simplistic analysis, in reality the current predicament is the overpopulation relative to technological advancement. Very soon we'll be at a stage where most of the menial jobs you refer to will be automated, the problem which then arises is obviously that without employment you will have billions of people without the means to provide for themselves. 


This is where the utilitarian model becomes obsolete, because while what works best for the majority of the people may have worked in the past and not significantly hindered progress, with the current predicament the reality is that those nations that choose the utilitarian route, which resembles the creation of a consumer class reliant on universal income to do nothing but consume, will fall behind those that choose to eugenically eliminate large portions of their population.


So these pathetic "Western" countries will stand still and then collapse, whereas those willing to sacrifice for the sake of evolution, like the Chinese, will progress. 

You really are a smug motherfucker, aren't you? Like that dude that got banned a few months back. Granted, there may not be many similarities, but, it's the 'smugness', shining like a light within the dark. Look at me, I'm a smug motherfucker. 


I wasn't talking about Buck Rogers in the twenty fifth fuckin' century. I was talking about the past, present, and immediate future. I've been listening to clairvoyants predict a technologically automated future for the past several decades now, and guess what? I still order at the drive-thru, and they still pick my trash up every week.

  

A rather simplistic analysis? Yes, neither was I writing a research paper for the Pope or any other smug motherfucker. the truth is, a brief essay along with that particular video snippet pretty much came to me about the same time, and that's good enough for me, so you know what you can do with your snide remark?

  

Technology aside, it doesn't take a rocket scientist (nor clairvoyant) to conclude that population increase over a finite area will eventually lead to problems, and 'simple' is good - it can often be your friend. You know who often indulges in the complicated? People that don't know what the fuck they are talking about as if lead down some entropic road to chaos and confusion.

  

Anyway, words and predictions can be like "reservations", people can make them, and everyone has them, but of course no one can ever be absolutely certain what awaits them...    

  


   

Close enough.

 

Edit : It keeps turning my paragraphs into a wall of text and a bunch of other shit.

Well said, CC.
Not really, you're simply offended, which is understandable since you grew in an echo chamber where everybody shares the same retarded ideas you do. Why don't you mention that your monkey friends are in fact beneficiaries of colonialism, both European and Islamic since both cultures introduced them to a higher quality of life, judging by the fact that they haven't reverted to their previous states of existence now that they've had the choice to. 


Take South Africa for example, they were literally running around half naked like savages with spears, living in straw and mud huts, committing genocide against one another (the greatest massacre in the history of South Africa was a Zulu ethnic cleansing of other black groups that themselves, just like the Zulu, invaded that land and killed off the Khoi). They didn't have an alphabet, most of their children would die of either starvation or disease, etc. In reality they subconsciously realize we've created a better life for them, regardless of whether they're plagued by an inferiority complex or we hurt their feelings, because once again they're beneficiaries of colonialism judging by the fact that they use what we've taught them, including our alphabets in most African countries.


https:///...09d83a5da743c025ab27


The above linked article is, as you probably know, about a video of a bunch of stupid cunts that thought they could go to a North African country and be safe, but only managed to get their heads cut off with blunt knives. Reason for mentioning? Because you probably won't have to wait so long because it's already commonplace in your country.


https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/09/19/alexis-saborit-now-charged-with-1st-degree-murder-in-girlfriends-beheading/



Yeah, but Nelson Mandela or something.

WARNING: Racist theory that can get you lynched in today's climate. Even if you base it on mtDNA and what's been learned in genome mapping. 

It's all about adaptation in my opinion. 

The humans that never left or went back into Africa never had a biological need to change their behavior after that point. 

I'll explain with a current scientific timeline. 

2 million years ago - migration wave of homo erectus leaves Africa.  After thousands upon thousands of years they reach East Asia and fully diverge into a hominid species called the Denisovans.

900,000 years ago - 2nd migration wave of the still less evolved homos leaves Africa and diverges into two more hominid species Homo sapien and Neanderthal.  

900,000 - 72,000 - At least 3 species from African origins inhabited earth simultaneously with some interbreeding occurrences. In this time several went back into Africa chasing better environmental conditions or territory. 

72,000 - 14,000 - At 72,000 years a MASSIVE supervolcanic eruption caused a 10 year volcanic winter and population bottle neck that almost killed off humans entirely.  With the volcano being in Indonesia in made the area with the highest concentration of hominids harsh for long enough to migrate away. 

One place (human inhabited) that was least affected least was equitoral Africa.  The population bottleneck was least catastrophic here.

Over the next thousands of years there were two trajectories occurring.  One that had to interbreed and experienced more forced adaptation in their behavior to survive. Developing more genetic memory for cooperative behavior in the process. That lead to more complex problem solving, and magnanimous traits everywhere else that almost died off, but not as much at the point of origin. The pockets around the equator with limited effects from the global catastrophe. 

In racist short terms: They were still chucking spears because they never lost the immediate resources to develop trade and cooperation.

14,000 - Present -  around the last genetic trace of Denisovan DNA in Asia, the species shifted to agricultural. Most likely the warming climate. By the end of the last ice age communal living became advantageous in drying desert regions.  Hence farming led to societies. Except in the still lush part of Africa where the concept of communal farms and commercial trade were far less necessary. 

Conclusion: While not different races, different environmental catalysts evolved into different priorities and mindset.  Where those more subjected to adversity were imprinted with an internal cooperation and order impulse those in the still lush savanna could look out for number one as always.

This is why Nigeria or The Congo could be one of the richest countries on the planet via natural resources but lack the cooperative impulse to form an ordered or fair society, choosing in favor to serve self primarily. This is likely why it took "white people" to set up societies that they're still figuring out how to navigate. The continent of European colonies.  


It will be a corrupt go until thousands upon thousands of years of unchanged impulse are changed in the genetic memory. For the same reason there are still tribes in the Amazon (and around the world) that still chuck spears at helicopters. Same homospiens, different behavior based on what works. They were a "continent of savages" because (environmentally) they never had to change that until the 18th century.  An Amazon uncontacted tribal person will be biologically closer to those that arrived 20,000 years ago than a present day Brazilian. 


Every European country in 1790: "They're bloody primitive savages but they are strong and agile, and we can ship them around the world as human labour".


As an American my country took thousands of years of harmonious living and sent it to Oklahoma to devolop alcohol problems. It's just a thing Christian European colonists do. 

The Forum post is edited by Dark Enlightenment Feb 10 '22
ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 10 '22

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Quote from Cornelius Coburn
Quote from ShovelFace
A rather simplistic analysis, in reality the current predicament is the overpopulation relative to technological advancement. Very soon we'll be at a stage where most of the menial jobs you refer to will be automated, the problem which then arises is obviously that without employment you will have billions of people without the means to provide for themselves. 


This is where the utilitarian model becomes obsolete, because while what works best for the majority of the people may have worked in the past and not significantly hindered progress, with the current predicament the reality is that those nations that choose the utilitarian route, which resembles the creation of a consumer class reliant on universal income to do nothing but consume, will fall behind those that choose to eugenically eliminate large portions of their population.


So these pathetic "Western" countries will stand still and then collapse, whereas those willing to sacrifice for the sake of evolution, like the Chinese, will progress. 

You really are a smug motherfucker, aren't you? Like that dude that got banned a few months back. Granted, there may not be many similarities, but, it's the 'smugness', shining like a light within the dark. Look at me, I'm a smug motherfucker. 


I wasn't talking about Buck Rogers in the twenty fifth fuckin' century. I was talking about the past, present, and immediate future. I've been listening to clairvoyants predict a technologically automated future for the past several decades now, and guess what? I still order at the drive-thru, and they still pick my trash up every week.

  

A rather simplistic analysis? Yes, neither was I writing a research paper for the Pope or any other smug motherfucker. the truth is, a brief essay along with that particular video snippet pretty much came to me about the same time, and that's good enough for me, so you know what you can do with your snide remark?

  

Technology aside, it doesn't take a rocket scientist (nor clairvoyant) to conclude that population increase over a finite area will eventually lead to problems, and 'simple' is good - it can often be your friend. You know who often indulges in the complicated? People that don't know what the fuck they are talking about as if lead down some entropic road to chaos and confusion.

  

Anyway, words and predictions can be like "reservations", people can make them, and everyone has them, but of course no one can ever be absolutely certain what awaits them...    

  


   

Close enough.

 

Edit : It keeps turning my paragraphs into a wall of text and a bunch of other shit.

Well said, CC.
Not really, you're simply offended, which is understandable since you grew in an echo chamber where everybody shares the same retarded ideas you do. Why don't you mention that your monkey friends are in fact beneficiaries of colonialism, both European and Islamic since both cultures introduced them to a higher quality of life, judging by the fact that they haven't reverted to their previous states of existence now that they've had the choice to. 


Take South Africa for example, they were literally running around half naked like savages with spears, living in straw and mud huts, committing genocide against one another (the greatest massacre in the history of South Africa was a Zulu ethnic cleansing of other black groups that themselves, just like the Zulu, invaded that land and killed off the Khoi). They didn't have an alphabet, most of their children would die of either starvation or disease, etc. In reality they subconsciously realize we've created a better life for them, regardless of whether they're plagued by an inferiority complex or we hurt their feelings, because once again they're beneficiaries of colonialism judging by the fact that they use what we've taught them, including our alphabets in most African countries.


https:///...09d83a5da743c025ab27


The above linked article is, as you probably know, about a video of a bunch of stupid cunts that thought they could go to a North African country and be safe, but only managed to get their heads cut off with blunt knives. Reason for mentioning? Because you probably won't have to wait so long because it's already commonplace in your country.


https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/09/19/alexis-saborit-now-charged-with-1st-degree-murder-in-girlfriends-beheading/



Yeah, but Nelson Mandela or something.

WARNING: Racist theory that can get you lynched in today's climate. Even if you base it on mtDNA and what's been learned in genome mapping. 

It's all about adaptation in my opinion. 

The humans that never left or went back into Africa never had a biological need to change their behavior after that point. 

I'll explain with a current scientific timeline. 

2 million years ago - migration wave of homo erectus leaves Africa.  After thousands upon thousands of years they reach East Asia and fully diverge into a hominid species called the Denisovans.

900,000 years ago - 2nd migration wave of the still less evolved homos leaves Africa and diverges into two more hominid species Homo sapien and Neanderthal.  

900,000 - 72,000 - At least 3 species from African origins inhabited earth simultaneously with some interbreeding occurrences. In this time several went back into Africa chasing better environmental conditions or territory. 

72,000 - 14,000 - At 72,000 years a MASSIVE supervolcanic eruption caused a 10 year volcanic winter and population bottle neck that almost killed off humans entirely.  With the volcano being in Indonesia in made the area with the highest concentration of hominids harsh for long enough to migrate away. 

One place (human inhabited) that was least affected least was equitoral Africa.  The population bottleneck was least catastrophic here.

Over the next thousands of years there were two trajectories occurring.  One that had to interbreed and experienced more forced adaptation in their behavior to survive. Developing more genetic memory for cooperative behavior in the process. That lead to more complex problem solving, and magnanimous traits everywhere else that almost died off, but not as much at the point of origin. The pockets around the equator with limited effects from the global catastrophe. 

In racist short terms: They were still chucking spears because they never lost the immediate resources to develop trade and cooperation.

14,000 - Present -  around the last genetic trace of Denisovan DNA in Asia, the species shifted to agricultural. Most likely the warming climate. By the end of the last ice age communal living became advantageous in drying desert regions.  Hence farming led to societies. Except in the still lush part of Africa where the concept of communal farms and commercial trade were far less necessary. 

Conclusion: While not different races, different environmental catalysts evolved into different priorities and mindset.  Where those more subjected to adversity were imprinted with an internal cooperation and order impulse those in the still lush savanna could look out for number one as always.

This is why Nigeria or The Congo could be one of the richest countries on the planet via natural resources but lack the cooperative impulse to form an ordered or fair society, choosing in favor to serve self primarily. This is likely why it took "white people" to set up societies that they're still figuring out how to navigate. The continent of European colonies.  


It will be a corrupt go until thousands upon thousands of years of unchanged impulse are changed in the genetic memory. For the same reason there are still tribes in the Amazon (and around the world) that still chuck spears at helicopters. Same homospiens, different behavior based on what works. They were a "continent of savages" because (environmentally) they never had to change that until the 18th century.  An Amazon uncontacted tribal person will be biologically closer to those that arrived 20,000 years ago than a present day Brazilian. 


Every European country in 1790: "They're bloody primitive savages but they are strong and agile, and we can ship them around the world as human labour".


As an American my country took thousands of years of harmonious living and sent it to Oklahoma to devolop alcohol problems. It's just a thing Christian European colonists do. 

I agree for the most part regarding your take on the perceived differences, it's an evolutionary adaptation. Just to be specific, I don't necessarily believe that different races are different species, but different subspecies, in fact the heterozygosity observed between the subspecies scientifically confirms it. For example, the heterozygosity between a chihuahua and a husky is incredibly low compared to that observed between perceived subspecies of the human race. 


As for the last part of your text, the world doesn't stand still, a billion species have gone extinct because of the changes that have come and gone. I don't see anything unnatural about Europeans disrupting their "harmonious" existence, not any more than one species preying on or exploiting one another. Is it evil for slave-making ants to steal the brood of other colonies, or is it merely nature? The morality you apply to this subject is a fairly recent phenomena, and the countries plagued by it, as previously stated, are all destroying themselves, so I doubt it'll be around for much longer either way. 


Why is it so terribly bad for your ancestors to have conquered them? Haven't they themselves been conquered by Huns, Moors, Carthaginians, Mongols and many other peoples? It's a double standard in history to invent a morality to shame one people for doing to others what all people have been doing to one another for a very long time. Now with regards to the argument of exploitation, who's benefitted the most? Not us, that's for sure. For some ignorant individual who will come along and make the mineral argument, my ancestors in the Transvaal were trading with the blacks in what became known as Rhodesia, they would trade 40g of salt for 70kgs of gold. 


Also, we have a very different history too. My people, the Boer people never colonized in the sense that yours did, not that I'm opposed to it. Before we moved up into the Free State and the Transvaal the Zulu committed a great ethnic cleansing of the blacks in the region, look up the Mfecane. We lived separately until the English conquered us in 1902 and unified the territories into what is today South Africa. They weren't living a "harmonious" life here either, the actual natives in Southern Africa, the Khoi people, a different people than what is conceived to be blacks, were exterminated by migrating Bantu tribes from the north. 


Your Paiutes had a slave empire, which is why the Navaho resorted to cursing them to create what is perceived to be the skin-walkers, the Hopi and Apache have legends of white giants living among them, the Apache even write about slaughtering them. History is more complex than people like to admit.


The Universalist ideal is also a Christian one, a deeply unnatural ideal which goes against both nature and tradition. For a Satanist free of Christian baggage, you still seem to be weighed down by a Universalist mindset. The "European Enlightenment" which has led to this nauseating cesspool called the West today, stemmed from Christianity, mainly a Protestant Christian notion to be exact. I'm not arguing that one has to discard good ideas because they stem from sources you may not like, I mean your American and Soviet space and aviation industries were massively improved upon after adopting National Socialist Germany's technology, even the B2 bomber was a German design, and nobody can deny we've made scientific progress under Christianity, even if it was mainly a hindrance. But is the Universalist mentality, which is a core principle of Christianity and why one can convert anyone, really one of those good ideas? Or would the fact that every nation that adopted it ended up losing power and position in the world indicate that it's unnatural and an inherently ridiculous concept? 

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Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Feb 10 '22

I think the Universalist ideals, while obscene in Christianity, are old as civilization.


And my theory is long way of saying tribal africans are closer to precivilized (society) humans like; pre-colonial Indiginous Americans (North and South), aborigines, and all those weird South Pacific head-hunting ones.  Pictographs at most right up to present day. In America there's an anglicized adaptation of Navajo, but no native written script. The idea of script never reached them or became useful.


I believe theres evidence that never having the insertion of civilization into the genetic memory takes several generations to domesticate when done later on. From Mesopotamia onward they were instilling collectivism as an abstract control mechanism. All the advances of society focused solely on keeping order. IMO, all cultures from the ancestors of those civilizations have a genetic instinctual predisposition to subservience. An instinct to lead, follow, or get out of the way.

Where as those without that urban or communinal linguistic habitat stayed nomadic,  illiterate, and seasonal in their settlements until a different genetic memory told them they were uncivilized.

IMO same thing in Africa. The ways remained unchanged since the Paleolithic and it's akin to  taking people programmed to life 12,000 years ago and forcing them into a new age in under 300 years. And also trading them for alcohol and such.



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Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Feb 10 '22

"The above linked article is, as you probably know, about a video of a bunch of stupid cunts that thought they could go to a North African country and be safe, but only managed to get their heads cut off with blunt knives."


I thought the main instrument used was a machete, maybe it was just a big knife, anyway, one guy that was hosting one of the videos that I watched was really impressed with how fast and clean the beheading was. He was like "Wow that was fast, I wonder what the brand is of that machete he's using?". Like it was a fuckin' advertisement for machetes or something.


Sad about the girls though, just in the wrong place at the wrong time.


ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 10 '22

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"The above linked article is, as you probably know, about a video of a bunch of stupid cunts that thought they could go to a North African country and be safe, but only managed to get their heads cut off with blunt knives."


I thought the main instrument used was a machete, maybe it was just a big knife, anyway, one guy that was hosting one of the videos that I watched was really impressed with how fast and clean the beheading was. He was like "Wow that was fast, I wonder what the brand is of that machete he's using?". Like it was a fuckin' advertisement for machetes or something.


Sad about the girls though, just in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Not really, it's natural selection. They were die-hard commies like your female friend, believed in equality from their safety net in a first-world country, then went to a volatile area to prove that women can go there since we're mischaracterizing these people as uncivilized. So in reality it's natural selection and well-deserved. I remember and English girl who became a teacher here didn't take advice regarding the mountains, then she got abducted, put in the trunk of a car and driven to multiple shabeen's where she was raped by hundreds of men, many of them had aids, also natural selection. The moral of the story is, it's always the people that live in majority white countries, and have these people as minorities that want to dictate the perception of these people, but when they come to places like South Africa, they usually change their minds very fast or learn their lessons the hard way. My discriminatory leanings aren't based on ignorance, but on the fact that I've been a white minority for over 30 years in a shithole country driven into the ground by a populace with a borderline retarded IQ. 


To be specific there are two beheadings, this shows only one I believe. The head was cut off from behind, making it slower and more painful, and no it wasn't that sharp. You could hear her scream for her mother, who probably raised her to be such a stupid cunt.

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ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 10 '22

Quote from Dark Enlightenment

I think the Universalist ideals, while obscene in Christianity, are old as civilization.


And my theory is long way of saying tribal africans are closer to precivilized (society) humans like; pre-colonial Indiginous Americans (North and South), aborigines, and all those weird South Pacific head-hunting ones.  Pictographs at most right up to present day. In America there's an anglicized adaptation of Navajo, but no native written script. The idea of script never reached them or became useful.


I believe theres evidence that never having the insertion of civilization into the genetic memory takes several generations to domesticate when done later on. From Mesopotamia onward they were instilling collectivism as an abstract control mechanism. All the advances of society focused solely on keeping order. IMO, all cultures from the ancestors of those civilizations have a genetic instinctual predisposition to subservience. An instinct to lead, follow, or get out of the way.

Where as those without that urban or communinal linguistic habitat stayed nomadic,  illiterate, and seasonal in their settlements until a different genetic memory told them they were uncivilized.

IMO same thing in Africa. The ways remained unchanged since the Paleolithic and it's akin to  taking people programmed to life 12,000 years ago and forcing them into a new age in under 300 years. And also trading them for alcohol and such.



I agree with most your points, and I recognize you as a fairly honest individual. The problem with regards to your theory is, that African societies throughout Africa have had contact with other civilizations long before the recent European colonial era.


There were slave empires in Eastern and Central Africa before the recent colonial period, ruled by blacks which is ironically never mentioned, selling slaves to the Muslims. There were the Ethiopians and Nubians, kingdoms that arose due to their proximity with the Egyptians and their need for slaves, ironically once again the poor blacks selling themselves to different peoples. There are many examples of such kingdoms, so in reality they've been exposed to that "genetic memory" for well over a thousand years, and still are incapable of maintaining their own civilizations without external intervention.


So history would refute that aspect of your argument, seeing as there have been African empires (of Sub-Saharan African peoples) for thousands of years and long before the most recent European colonial era, but always in reaction to an external factor, and once that external factor withdrew or ceased to be they've always collapsed.


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Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Feb 11 '22

Re : The Morocco Incident


- Prologue -


I have observed the video clip as well as various commentary, so I will piece together the events of that fateful day, as I understand them.


- End Prologue -


The elder of the two girls had "reservations" about the trip, but the other had eased her mind and persuaded her otherwise, and I believe they were also supposed to have a guide present to accompany them, and then there was issue with that, but nevertheless, off they went.


The first encounter with the men was during the ascent of this mountainous range where the murders took place, and then later they encountered these same men again after the descent near the base of the mountain. The girls then decided to set up camp for the night, and the men likewise about a quarter of a mile down from them.


The girls retired at about 9:00 PM and then around midnight were awoken to these same men outside their tent, where one was ordering them to "Come out!". When the girls did not immediately exit the tent, one of the men grabbed the external zipper and attempted to gain entrance, while the younger girl(Louise) grabbed the inside zipper trying to prevent this, and her hand was slashed during a brief struggle. Around the same time one of the other men went around to the back of the tent and began slicing at it to gain entrance at the rear.


As the one man began gaining access at the front, the younger girl who had been resisting him sprang from the tent and tried to run away but was quickly subdued. Meanwhile, back at the tent, the elder girl was just overcome, frozen with fear, and just sat there motionless. This girl was then stabbed to death prior to beheading.


More or less at around the same time the other girl who was subdued outside the tent, where the video picks up, was positioned on her stomach, initially. One of the men then began sawing and hacking at the back of her neck. This is where she cried "Ow!", and then "Ma!", and then followed by another "Ow!", and then finally one last "Ah!". She did manage to roll over during the attack while simultaneously have her throat cut with a machete. Some major arteries were being hit at this point, and one of the other men provided some assistance by placing his foot on the side of her head while the other man continued cutting at her throat. The girl put her left arm out in a desperate attempt to try and push the man away, but he was just cutting at her throat the whole time. The blood was flowing pretty good at this point, and there was some gurgling. The whole thing was over in about twenty seconds, and then of course after that she was then decapitated.


I don't believe there was ever any video made of the older girl that was murdered inside the tent.

Dusche
Dusche Feb 11 '22


Quote from Ba Adil 2.0 beloved friends 


ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 12 '22

Quote from Cornelius Coburn

Re : The Morocco Incident


- Prologue -


I have observed the video clip as well as various commentary, so I will piece together the events of that fateful day, as I understand them.


- End Prologue -


The elder of the two girls had "reservations" about the trip, but the other had eased her mind and persuaded her otherwise, and I believe they were also supposed to have a guide present to accompany them, and then there was issue with that, but nevertheless, off they went.


The first encounter with the men was during the ascent of this mountainous range where the murders took place, and then later they encountered these same men again after the descent near the base of the mountain. The girls then decided to set up camp for the night, and the men likewise about a quarter of a mile down from them.


The girls retired at about 9:00 PM and then around midnight were awoken to these same men outside their tent, where one was ordering them to "Come out!". When the girls did not immediately exit the tent, one of the men grabbed the external zipper and attempted to gain entrance, while the younger girl(Louise) grabbed the inside zipper trying to prevent this, and her hand was slashed during a brief struggle. Around the same time one of the other men went around to the back of the tent and began slicing at it to gain entrance at the rear.


As the one man began gaining access at the front, the younger girl who had been resisting him sprang from the tent and tried to run away but was quickly subdued. Meanwhile, back at the tent, the elder girl was just overcome, frozen with fear, and just sat there motionless. This girl was then stabbed to death prior to beheading.


More or less at around the same time the other girl who was subdued outside the tent, where the video picks up, was positioned on her stomach, initially. One of the men then began sawing and hacking at the back of her neck. This is where she cried "Ow!", and then "Ma!", and then followed by another "Ow!", and then finally one last "Ah!". She did manage to roll over during the attack while simultaneously have her throat cut with a machete. Some major arteries were being hit at this point, and one of the other men provided some assistance by placing his foot on the side of her head while the other man continued cutting at her throat. The girl put her left arm out in a desperate attempt to try and push the man away, but he was just cutting at her throat the whole time. The blood was flowing pretty good at this point, and there was some gurgling. The whole thing was over in about twenty seconds, and then of course after that she was then decapitated.


I don't believe there was ever any video made of the older girl that was murdered inside the tent.


Missed the part where they both got gangraped and probably with knives before beheading, also, this confirms the fact that they were beheaded from behind. Ironically one of the stupid cunts was spreading pro-refugee propaganda on twitter. I saw the video, if I remember correctly they also kicked the head like a soccer ball.


https://twitter.com/AmyMek/status/1076221983535366145

ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 12 '22

Quote from Ba Adil 2.0 Once upon time, some beloved friends who I give respect to a lot told me this fairy tale : 


<<When you wake up in the morning and get connected to the internet, then you start receiving notifications from your mobile about someone who has died here or there in Morocco or any other country in the world, you don't need to be so surprised, my brother. In other words, please don't disturb our emotions or keep annoying us, because Morocco is a country (like any other country in the world of course) in which it's necessary that at least 500 people or more die per day, what I want to say is you have to save your white emotions like sympathy or compassion and keep them for the black day when you wake up and hear in news about the death of  million Moroccans or any other citizens (as happened a long time ago in Algeria) but it's only a million Moroccans who died nothing more or less so don't be too worried about it, and the reason is that thousands of Moroccans died before and nothing happened in which way no one even heard about them. For that main reason, you shouldn't pretend to claim some kinds of values ​​that you don't earn either because values are gained by working, inventing and making crafts not by hate speech or laziness, as the German philosopher “Karl Marx” once said in his book "Das Capital".>>

Okay nigger, why don't you come mow my lawn now?
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Feb 12 '22

"Missed the part where they both got gangraped and probably with knives before beheading, also, this confirms the fact that they were beheaded from behind. Ironically one of the stupid cunts was spreading pro-refugee propaganda on twitter. I saw the video, if I remember correctly they also kicked the head like a soccer ball."


There never was any specific context given for the rapes; just that they were raped, although extrapolation into the narrative did seem a fairly straightforward affair.


The one girl outside the tent did appear totally quiet and motionless for the first several seconds of having the back of her neck hacked and sawed at, and that did appear slightly odd. I figured she was just traumatized from the rape, and/or maybe she had been stabbed and was playing dead, which obviously isn't going to do you a whole lot of good when you're about to be decapitated.

Sabrina
Sabrina Feb 12 '22

Quote from ShovelFace
Quote from Ba Adil 2.0 Once upon time, some beloved friends who I give respect to a lot told me this fairy tale : 


<<When you wake up in the morning and get connected to the internet, then you start receiving notifications from your mobile about someone who has died here or there in Morocco or any other country in the world, you don't need to be so surprised, my brother. In other words, please don't disturb our emotions or keep annoying us, because Morocco is a country (like any other country in the world of course) in which it's necessary that at least 500 people or more die per day, what I want to say is you have to save your white emotions like sympathy or compassion and keep them for the black day when you wake up and hear in news about the death of  million Moroccans or any other citizens (as happened a long time ago in Algeria) but it's only a million Moroccans who died nothing more or less so don't be too worried about it, and the reason is that thousands of Moroccans died before and nothing happened in which way no one even heard about them. For that main reason, you shouldn't pretend to claim some kinds of values ​​that you don't earn either because values are gained by working, inventing and making crafts not by hate speech or laziness, as the German philosopher “Karl Marx” once said in his book "Das Capital".>>

Okay nigger, why don't you come mow my lawn now?


Get out of your thick headed ego and stop degrading people who don't share the same opinions as yours. You're literally adding 0 value to their post with that stanky child like attitude

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ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 12 '22

Quote from Sabrina
Quote from ShovelFace
Quote from Ba Adil 2.0 Once upon time, some beloved friends who I give respect to a lot told me this fairy tale : 


<<When you wake up in the morning and get connected to the internet, then you start receiving notifications from your mobile about someone who has died here or there in Morocco or any other country in the world, you don't need to be so surprised, my brother. In other words, please don't disturb our emotions or keep annoying us, because Morocco is a country (like any other country in the world of course) in which it's necessary that at least 500 people or more die per day, what I want to say is you have to save your white emotions like sympathy or compassion and keep them for the black day when you wake up and hear in news about the death of  million Moroccans or any other citizens (as happened a long time ago in Algeria) but it's only a million Moroccans who died nothing more or less so don't be too worried about it, and the reason is that thousands of Moroccans died before and nothing happened in which way no one even heard about them. For that main reason, you shouldn't pretend to claim some kinds of values ​​that you don't earn either because values are gained by working, inventing and making crafts not by hate speech or laziness, as the German philosopher “Karl Marx” once said in his book "Das Capital".>>

Okay nigger, why don't you come mow my lawn now?


Get out of your thick headed ego and stop degrading people who don't share the same opinions as yours. You're literally adding 0 value to their post with that stanky child like attitude

So you're opposed to ego, as opposed to hubris obviously, yet are on a predominantly Laveyan board? Hmmm. Empty the chamber pot, peasant.
Sabrina
Sabrina Feb 12 '22

Quote from ShovelFace
Quote from Sabrina
Quote from ShovelFace
Quote from Ba Adil 2.0 Once upon time, some beloved friends who I give respect to a lot told me this fairy tale : 


<<When you wake up in the morning and get connected to the internet, then you start receiving notifications from your mobile about someone who has died here or there in Morocco or any other country in the world, you don't need to be so surprised, my brother. In other words, please don't disturb our emotions or keep annoying us, because Morocco is a country (like any other country in the world of course) in which it's necessary that at least 500 people or more die per day, what I want to say is you have to save your white emotions like sympathy or compassion and keep them for the black day when you wake up and hear in news about the death of  million Moroccans or any other citizens (as happened a long time ago in Algeria) but it's only a million Moroccans who died nothing more or less so don't be too worried about it, and the reason is that thousands of Moroccans died before and nothing happened in which way no one even heard about them. For that main reason, you shouldn't pretend to claim some kinds of values ​​that you don't earn either because values are gained by working, inventing and making crafts not by hate speech or laziness, as the German philosopher “Karl Marx” once said in his book "Das Capital".>>

Okay nigger, why don't you come mow my lawn now?


Get out of your thick headed ego and stop degrading people who don't share the same opinions as yours. You're literally adding 0 value to their post with that stanky child like attitude

So you're opposed to ego, as opposed to hubris obviously, yet are on a predominantly Laveyan board? Hmmm. Empty the chamber pot, peasant.
What? I'm pretty sure you knew what I meant by ego. I meant it metaphorically. Hubris? Why are you sugarcoating your actions? I'm opposed to douchebags. You don't need to have a disgusting attitude as a prerequisite to be on a satanic forum board
ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 13 '22

Quote from Ba Adil 2.0
Quote from Sabrina
Quote from ShovelFace
Quote from Ba Adil 2.0 Once upon time, some beloved friends who I give respect to a lot told me this fairy tale : 


<<When you wake up in the morning and get connected to the internet, then you start receiving notifications from your mobile about someone who has died here or there in Morocco or any other country in the world, you don't need to be so surprised, my brother. In other words, please don't disturb our emotions or keep annoying us, because Morocco is a country (like any other country in the world of course) in which it's necessary that at least 500 people or more die per day, what I want to say is you have to save your white emotions like sympathy or compassion and keep them for the black day when you wake up and hear in news about the death of  million Moroccans or any other citizens (as happened a long time ago in Algeria) but it's only a million Moroccans who died nothing more or less so don't be too worried about it, and the reason is that thousands of Moroccans died before and nothing happened in which way no one even heard about them. For that main reason, you shouldn't pretend to claim some kinds of values ​​that you don't earn either because values are gained by working, inventing and making crafts not by hate speech or laziness, as the German philosopher “Karl Marx” once said in his book "Das Capital".>>

Okay nigger, why don't you come mow my lawn now?


Get out of your thick headed ego and stop degrading people who don't share the same opinions as yours. You're literally adding 0 value to their post with that stanky child like attitude

Since evil is allowed to exist then the only way to deal with it is through normalization which "Avichay Adraee" has spoke about somehow so the subconscious mind gets used to it hopefully in order to start ignoring it on the long term and focusing on what's really important like spirituality and self development.
Hmmm, so you believe in an objective evil? Aren't Laveyans supposed to be moral relativists?
Dusche
Dusche Feb 13 '22

Quote from Cornelius Coburn

"Come out!". 


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