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AlexTheTerrible
AlexTheTerrible Jan 30 '22
I was planning on actually writing this up on my blog, but since I keep on getting technical errors, why not post this right here. A lot of us have heard about the U.S. Elite (the people who are wealthy, who pretty much run the country of the U.S.). Many of us have come across those who are resentful of this Elite of course. I myself have come across the usual slogans, "Theyr'e getting more richer" etc. I even know of one intelligent family member who has had a fine career in the past, that has payed well (not the Trades). 


This one family member of course one time told me of how the Elite doesn't give a "damn about us" and instead "They really want to make a profit," you name it. Now personally I have written a previous blog of mine, on my takes of Nationalism, as well as expressing my dystopian viewpoints on U.S. politics. This applies similarly.


As someone who comes from LaVey's school of thought, I have no problem with the Elites taking advantage of the U.S. This all goes back to the animal kingdom, the strong simply thrives and dominates the inferior organisms. The animal kingdom is simply facts. So why play the victimhood blame mentality? This all goes back to the Nietzschean definition of slave morality. The lowest organisms resenting the aristocratic values of the higher organisms, and wishing to overturn the aristocratic culture. Now as someone who comes from a Satanic background, I have my respect for the Elite's of this country. After all, they did it themselves to survive, thrive, dominate, and earn the respect that they deserve. It wouldn't surprise me if you had a small percentage of wealthy elitists applying Satanic philosophy. 

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Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jan 30 '22
Hail the oligarchy. Hail the meritocracy. Hail old money and dad's friend at Miramax. 


I think it's a humorous Christian paranoia that deserves to be exploited by internet trolls.  Fear of the elite is fear of the boogeyman and fear of the dark forces that keep you down. The same reason why you see the greatest concentration of religious buildings in low income areas and cocaine in affluence. 


I still hold on to dreams of affluence.  But I didn't have a father with industry connections so the roads a bit "puntier" for me. Hey did you know I'm a composer?  Just look how successful that's gone. 


Joking aside, It's a world of opportunity for the lucky and affluent. With most slots given to legacy the limited ones remaining allocated to lottery winners and the NAACP.

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Anna
Anna Jan 31 '22
What pisses me off personally are stupid decisions of stupid politicians. But it would be gross oversimplification to claim it all boils down to the Machiavellian strife for wealth, power and dominance. When it comes to politics, silly ideology, the wish to gain the electorate's approval at any price or simply ignorance and the lack of insight play a considerable role too.


Lex Talionis means primarily retributive justice. While it can be found among criminals or other people living on the margins of the society, the mainstream legal systems and also moral codes are contrary to it.

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AlexTheTerrible
AlexTheTerrible Jan 31 '22

Quote from Anna  When it comes to politics, silly ideology, the wish to gain the electorate's approval at any price or simply ignorance and the lack of insight play a considerable role too.
Oh yeah, I agree with this as well. I was just reading a book a few weeks ago called "The Confessions of Congressman X" about an anonymous former congressman who has his past ramblings recorded in that book, where he primarily laughs at the stupidity of voters for voting people like him in. In that short book he naturally explains the simple role as politician, where he makes his words simple to please the masses on what they want to hear. But in all actuality, the promises that he naturally makes fades away. Of course that is the role of how most politicians operate.
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AlexTheTerrible
AlexTheTerrible Jan 31 '22

Quote from Anna 


Lex Talionis means primarily retributive justice. 

Thank you for correcting me on that.
Dantalion
Dantalion Feb 1 '22
The elites have created a world where we too can become successful if you just work hard and make the right decisions. My dad was dirt poor when I was growing up, and he just worked hard, paid his house off, cashed out his 401 k and bought an advertising and promotions company. He’s now has well over a million dollars in the bank, owns land in Idaho and buys a new car every 30,000 miles. He earned all of that just starting out as a produce clerk at a grocery store. Never went to college or anything.
Baphomets Mod
Baphomets Feb 1 '22

Quote from Dantalion we too can become successful if you just work hard and make the right decisions. 
The American dream is a myth. 
Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Feb 1 '22

Only if you're from here and lower class. 


Foreigners have tons of options not limited to; Massage parlor, nail salon, doctor, computer programmer, liquor store/gas station/bodega/restaurant/laundromat owner, car dealer, mechanic, agricultural worker, hotel employee, laborer, and Uber.  


I guess it's a perspective thing? 

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Baphomets Mod
Baphomets Feb 2 '22

Quote from Dark Enlightenment

Only if you're from here and lower class. 


Foreigners have tons of options not limited to; Massage parlor, nail salon, doctor, computer programmer, liquor store/gas station/bodega/restaurant/laundromat owner, car dealer, mechanic, agricultural worker, hotel employee, laborer, and Uber.  


I guess it's a perspective thing? 

No, it is. If you are born white, you are born a step ahead. If you are born white with money, you are way ahead before you take your first crap. If you are born a poor white, you are at the same level of disadvantage as an African American.


There are plenty of people/families in poverty that have great work ethic and work their asses off, but never overcome poverty due to the life they were brought in to and their limited options. And there's too much that goes into that to write here at once, as I have to go in to work in a few minutes.

After all, only 30% of people born in poverty will ever make it to the middle class. Those born into poverty that rise beyond middle class to be rich is 1%. The folks you hear about: Obama, Rowlings, etc are part of that 1% but you hear it and see it so much on media because it's a ploy to keep the poor working hard.  That has worked for decades until recently due to the great American work "shove it" and worker shortage. Now hands are out and reliant. That's one sure way to keep them in their place, though. Convenience. Laziness. Dependence.

More options for foreigners because most times, life elsewhere is grim and life here is better than there. But even those that come here, many times are already considered affluent in their home countries or have advantages like a relative is here already, they won the green card lottery, they have an education and are coming here for a career, etc.

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Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Feb 2 '22

Regardless, there will always be a need to fill specific shit jobs for shit pay. Someone to take your order at the drive-thru, wait on you in a restaurant, or pick your trash up every week. The list goes on and on.


The lower class always has and always will do all the jobs that the middle class or higher certainly aren't going to do. There are just too many shitty jobs that are staples of the status quo. Somebody needs to do it...

 


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ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 7 '22

Quote from AlexTheTerrible I was planning on actually writing this up on my blog, but since I keep on getting technical errors, why not post this right here. A lot of us have heard about the U.S. Elite (the people who are wealthy, who pretty much run the country of the U.S.). Many of us have come across those who are resentful of this Elite of course. I myself have come across the usual slogans, "Theyr'e getting more richer" etc. I even know of one intelligent family member who has had a fine career in the past, that has payed well (not the Trades). 


This one family member of course one time told me of how the Elite doesn't give a "damn about us" and instead "They really want to make a profit," you name it. Now personally I have written a previous blog of mine, on my takes of Nationalism, as well as expressing my dystopian viewpoints on U.S. politics. This applies similarly.


As someone who comes from LaVey's school of thought, I have no problem with the Elites taking advantage of the U.S. This all goes back to the animal kingdom, the strong simply thrives and dominates the inferior organisms. The animal kingdom is simply facts. So why play the victimhood blame mentality? This all goes back to the Nietzschean definition of slave morality. The lowest organisms resenting the aristocratic values of the higher organisms, and wishing to overturn the aristocratic culture. Now as someone who comes from a Satanic background, I have my respect for the Elite's of this country. After all, they did it themselves to survive, thrive, dominate, and earn the respect that they deserve. It wouldn't surprise me if you had a small percentage of wealthy elitists applying Satanic philosophy. 



Quote from AlexTheTerrible I was planning on actually writing this up on my blog, but since I keep on getting technical errors, why not post this right here. A lot of us have heard about the U.S. Elite (the people who are wealthy, who pretty much run the country of the U.S.). Many of us have come across those who are resentful of this Elite of course. I myself have come across the usual slogans, "Theyr'e getting more richer" etc. I even know of one intelligent family member who has had a fine career in the past, that has payed well (not the Trades). 


This one family member of course one time told me of how the Elite doesn't give a "damn about us" and instead "They really want to make a profit," you name it. Now personally I have written a previous blog of mine, on my takes of Nationalism, as well as expressing my dystopian viewpoints on U.S. politics. This applies similarly.


As someone who comes from LaVey's school of thought, I have no problem with the Elites taking advantage of the U.S. This all goes back to the animal kingdom, the strong simply thrives and dominates the inferior organisms. The animal kingdom is simply facts. So why play the victimhood blame mentality? This all goes back to the Nietzschean definition of slave morality. The lowest organisms resenting the aristocratic values of the higher organisms, and wishing to overturn the aristocratic culture. Now as someone who comes from a Satanic background, I have my respect for the Elite's of this country. After all, they did it themselves to survive, thrive, dominate, and earn the respect that they deserve. It wouldn't surprise me if you had a small percentage of wealthy elitists applying Satanic philosophy. 



Quote from AlexTheTerrible I was planning on actually writing this up on my blog, but since I keep on getting technical errors, why not post this right here. A lot of us have heard about the U.S. Elite (the people who are wealthy, who pretty much run the country of the U.S.). Many of us have come across those who are resentful of this Elite of course. I myself have come across the usual slogans, "Theyr'e getting more richer" etc. I even know of one intelligent family member who has had a fine career in the past, that has payed well (not the Trades). 


This one family member of course one time told me of how the Elite doesn't give a "damn about us" and instead "They really want to make a profit," you name it. Now personally I have written a previous blog of mine, on my takes of Nationalism, as well as expressing my dystopian viewpoints on U.S. politics. This applies similarly.


As someone who comes from LaVey's school of thought, I have no problem with the Elites taking advantage of the U.S. This all goes back to the animal kingdom, the strong simply thrives and dominates the inferior organisms. The animal kingdom is simply facts. So why play the victimhood blame mentality? This all goes back to the Nietzschean definition of slave morality. The lowest organisms resenting the aristocratic values of the higher organisms, and wishing to overturn the aristocratic culture. Now as someone who comes from a Satanic background, I have my respect for the Elite's of this country. After all, they did it themselves to survive, thrive, dominate, and earn the respect that they deserve. It wouldn't surprise me if you had a small percentage of wealthy elitists applying Satanic philosophy. 

I think you have a decent mindset, I have no problem with the elite, merely that I'm not among them right now. Throughout history the tribe or people occupying that position have varied, so personally I'm not interested in crying about some group I don't like being a part of the elite, I'm interested in studying the mechanisms and stratagems employed to get to that position.


For example, if you look at South Africa you can see that there were two different white tribes who coexisted in what became South Africa, initially the Union of South Africa as created by the English. After the second Anglo-Boer war, the Boer, having been massively outnumbered and defeated were relegated to cheap labour in the mines. As time went on though a secret society formed among the now "Afrikaner" people, you see Afrikaner was a melting together of the Boer and the Cape Dutch, called the Broederbond (Bruderbund/Brotherbond).


This secret society went up against the two leading secret societies in South Africa, the Freemasons and the Sons of England, and managed to take over the country without even firing a bullet in 1948. While I'm not a proponent of the worldview espoused by the Broederbond, it was a great feat, and not all that different from the feats accomplished by other nationalistically-inclined secret societies at the time. 


Ironically due to the weak worldview, which incorporated a racial chosenite/Calvinistic version of Christianity, this same secret society which overcame so much would end up destroying the country it created as well as aiding in the communist takeover of South Africa. If you ever want to read about them look into these books "Brotherhood of Power" by Serfontein and "Superafrikaners". 


You've probably heard of project Coast, the biological warfare program started by the SADF, they had the means to wipe out every non-white life in South Africa, and chose not to. The guy at the head of this project, Wouter Basson, interestingly enough went on to work for Gaddafi, and also ended up being threatened by the CIA for access to his work. I'm also aware that project Coast was also connected to an Israeli program purposed with designing biological weapons that can target people by race. Suffice to say, the Broederbond had the means to maintain its power and dominion over the region, but chose against it. Some say, and I believe them, that they've morphed into what is today called the Solidarity movement, an extremely powerful movement building private Afrikaans institutions to combat government policies restricting the ability of Afrikaners to study in their own language, they're also involved with secessionist movements which are gaining steam, so they may rule again. 


My point is, it is the biological imperative of any tribe or people to become the elite, as such it is always interesting to study their techniques in hopes of learning from them, and possibly using such techniques against them should the need arise. But even the techniques alone do not ensure the preservation of such a group, as the Broederbond proved, since unlike National Socialist Germany which faced overwhelming odds, the collapse was a top-down event, whereby the elite betrayed the people, and in doing so possibly destroyed any chance they had at future dominance over the region. 


The missing component is a worldview which takes advantage of the inherent qualities of the people or tribe that seek to formulate it, as well as devise methods to negate their inherent flaws. I don't think Lavey had a coherent worldview, nor do I think he could've joined the elite. I'd say that Aquino was more suited to the task, however time will determine how coherent his philosophy and the structures that he left behind will prove.

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ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 7 '22

Quote from Cornelius Coburn

Regardless, there will always be a need to fill specific shit jobs for shit pay. Someone to take your order at the drive-thru, wait on you in a restaurant, or pick your trash up every week. The list goes on and on.


The lower class always has and always will do all the jobs that the middle class or higher certainly aren't going to do. There are just too many shitty jobs that are staples of the status quo. Somebody needs to do it...

 



A rather simplistic analysis, in reality the current predicament is the overpopulation relative to technological advancement. Very soon we'll be at a stage where most of the menial jobs you refer to will be automated, the problem which then arises is obviously that without employment you will have billions of people without the means to provide for themselves. 


This is where the utilitarian model becomes obsolete, because while what works best for the majority of the people may have worked in the past and not significantly hindered progress, with the current predicament the reality is that those nations that choose the utilitarian route, which resembles the creation of a consumer class reliant on universal income to do nothing but consume, will fall behind those that choose to eugenically eliminate large portions of their population.


So these pathetic "Western" countries will stand still and then collapse, whereas those willing to sacrifice for the sake of evolution, like the Chinese, will progress. 

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ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 7 '22

Quote from Baphomets
Quote from Dark Enlightenment

Only if you're from here and lower class. 


Foreigners have tons of options not limited to; Massage parlor, nail salon, doctor, computer programmer, liquor store/gas station/bodega/restaurant/laundromat owner, car dealer, mechanic, agricultural worker, hotel employee, laborer, and Uber.  


I guess it's a perspective thing? 

No, it is. If you are born white, you are born a step ahead. If you are born white with money, you are way ahead before you take your first crap. If you are born a poor white, you are at the same level of disadvantage as an African American.


There are plenty of people/families in poverty that have great work ethic and work their asses off, but never overcome poverty due to the life they were brought in to and their limited options. And there's too much that goes into that to write here at once, as I have to go in to work in a few minutes.

After all, only 30% of people born in poverty will ever make it to the middle class. Those born into poverty that rise beyond middle class to be rich is 1%. The folks you hear about: Obama, Rowlings, etc are part of that 1% but you hear it and see it so much on media because it's a ploy to keep the poor working hard.  That has worked for decades until recently due to the great American work "shove it" and worker shortage. Now hands are out and reliant. That's one sure way to keep them in their place, though. Convenience. Laziness. Dependence.

More options for foreigners because most times, life elsewhere is grim and life here is better than there. But even those that come here, many times are already considered affluent in their home countries or have advantages like a relative is here already, they won the green card lottery, they have an education and are coming here for a career, etc.

Bullshit modern ideas that recently developed, isn't it ironic that all the countries that espouse such nonsense are also the countries in decline?


I'm not American, why don't you try starting a business in South Africa as a white person? You going to give away 51% of your business so that you can be B.E.E compliant? White people still have an advantage in this country even after three decades of Communist black rule, and it's not because of historical advantage, it's because regardless of what we've been dispossessed of, we're always able to rebuild ourselves and preserve our own culture here. I can't speak for Americans, but I'd wager when you have your communist Utopia, like they had here, in Mozambique and Zimbabwe, all shitholes now that you thought would be better now once whites were out of power, that your black friends will still be making the same excuses for their lack of prominence. 


Asians are in a higher income bracket than the average white American too, because they have a culture which forces their children to focus on education, much like the Mormons who actually have the highest IQ in your country. 


But hey guess what ma'am, you've created a country more unequal than Apartheid in South Africa, where 1 in 3 women will be raped in their lifetime and 1 in 4 children. You've created a country where people have to dig for gold to buy bread or die starving on the heaps of the other poor bastards that failed them in Zimbabwe where they have to beg white farmers to go back, promising them billions. Mozambique is being systematically taken over by African elements of ISIS. But yeah, the reason your black friends fail is because of white people, let's go with that.


Also, if you resent white people so much, why not kill yourself? Why use the Roman alphabet and the English language? Why don't you move to Africa and spend your life in service to your friends, pay for their food, medicine and education, since those are your principles? 

ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 7 '22

Quote from Baphomets
Quote from Dantalion we too can become successful if you just work hard and make the right decisions. 
The American dream is a myth. 
The American dream is a myth, but he's correct, I provided you with an example of how elements of my people created a secret society that overthrew Anglo-Judaic rule in my country. Anyone can do it, your nihilism is quite pathetic.
ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 7 '22

Quote from Anna What pisses me off personally are stupid decisions of stupid politicians. But it would be gross oversimplification to claim it all boils down to the Machiavellian strife for wealth, power and dominance. When it comes to politics, silly ideology, the wish to gain the electorate's approval at any price or simply ignorance and the lack of insight play a considerable role too.


Lex Talionis means primarily retributive justice. While it can be found among criminals or other people living on the margins of the society, the mainstream legal systems and also moral codes are contrary to it.

We both know politicians don't control anything, nor does the populace. Liberal democracy is the bread and games of our time.
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ShovelFace
ShovelFace Feb 7 '22

Quote from Dantalion The elites have created a world where we too can become successful if you just work hard and make the right decisions. My dad was dirt poor when I was growing up, and he just worked hard, paid his house off, cashed out his 401 k and bought an advertising and promotions company. He’s now has well over a million dollars in the bank, owns land in Idaho and buys a new car every 30,000 miles. He earned all of that just starting out as a produce clerk at a grocery store. Never went to college or anything.
That is certainly commendable, but he's still not part of the elite. You are right in the assumption that you could become part of it though. For example, say a bunch of people, a few hundred people with equal or greater wealth than your father pulled together to form a tribe of society of some kind that work together to enact their collective will over a particular region. That would be the first step towards forming a future elite, consequently your father and his friends would have to utilize parallel institutions to undermine the wealth and influence of their opponents, the hitherto ruling elite. 


But no, they haven't created a system whereby you can join them, you can be a top earner, but you can never join them utilizing the methods they make available to you.

Anna
Anna Feb 7 '22

Quote from ShovelFace
Quote from Anna What pisses me off personally are stupid decisions of stupid politicians. But it would be gross oversimplification to claim it all boils down to the Machiavellian strife for wealth, power and dominance. When it comes to politics, silly ideology, the wish to gain the electorate's approval at any price or simply ignorance and the lack of insight play a considerable role too.


Lex Talionis means primarily retributive justice. While it can be found among criminals or other people living on the margins of the society, the mainstream legal systems and also moral codes are contrary to it.

We both know politicians don't control anything, nor does the populace. Liberal democracy is the bread and games of our time.

Then you must be living in anarchy since you're making such oversimplifications.


Here, the government has an actual power. Sure, it's not absolute like in dictatorship but it's enough to fuck up some aspects of citizens' life. Often it's not even deliberate. Something about the road to hell being paved with good intentions. So yes, the politicians can screw you unless they receive a significant pushback in the form of mass street protests or dissent within their own party ranks.

Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Feb 7 '22
Quote from ShovelFace
A rather simplistic analysis, in reality the current predicament is the overpopulation relative to technological advancement. Very soon we'll be at a stage where most of the menial jobs you refer to will be automated, the problem which then arises is obviously that without employment you will have billions of people without the means to provide for themselves. 


This is where the utilitarian model becomes obsolete, because while what works best for the majority of the people may have worked in the past and not significantly hindered progress, with the current predicament the reality is that those nations that choose the utilitarian route, which resembles the creation of a consumer class reliant on universal income to do nothing but consume, will fall behind those that choose to eugenically eliminate large portions of their population.


So these pathetic "Western" countries will stand still and then collapse, whereas those willing to sacrifice for the sake of evolution, like the Chinese, will progress. 

You really are a smug motherfucker, aren't you? Like that dude that got banned a few months back. Granted, there may not be many similarities, but, it's the 'smugness', shining like a light within the dark. Look at me, I'm a smug motherfucker. 


I wasn't talking about Buck Rogers in the twenty fifth fuckin' century. I was talking about the past, present, and immediate future. I've been listening to clairvoyants predict a technologically automated future for the past several decades now, and guess what? I still order at the drive-thru, and they still pick my trash up every week.

  

A rather simplistic analysis? Yes, neither was I writing a research paper for the Pope or any other smug motherfucker. the truth is, a brief essay along with that particular video snippet pretty much came to me about the same time, and that's good enough for me, so you know what you can do with your snide remark?

  

Technology aside, it doesn't take a rocket scientist (nor clairvoyant) to conclude that population increase over a finite area will eventually lead to problems, and 'simple' is good - it can often be your friend. You know who often indulges in the complicated? People that don't know what the fuck they are talking about as if lead down some entropic road to chaos and confusion.

  

Anyway, words and predictions can be like "reservations", people can make them, and everyone has them, but of course no one can ever be absolutely certain what awaits them...    

  


   

Close enough.

 

Edit : It keeps turning my paragraphs into a wall of text and a bunch of other shit.

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Baphomets Feb 7 '22

Quote from Cornelius Coburn
Quote from ShovelFace
A rather simplistic analysis, in reality the current predicament is the overpopulation relative to technological advancement. Very soon we'll be at a stage where most of the menial jobs you refer to will be automated, the problem which then arises is obviously that without employment you will have billions of people without the means to provide for themselves. 


This is where the utilitarian model becomes obsolete, because while what works best for the majority of the people may have worked in the past and not significantly hindered progress, with the current predicament the reality is that those nations that choose the utilitarian route, which resembles the creation of a consumer class reliant on universal income to do nothing but consume, will fall behind those that choose to eugenically eliminate large portions of their population.


So these pathetic "Western" countries will stand still and then collapse, whereas those willing to sacrifice for the sake of evolution, like the Chinese, will progress. 

You really are a smug motherfucker, aren't you? Like that dude that got banned a few months back. Granted, there may not be many similarities, but, it's the 'smugness', shining like a light within the dark. Look at me, I'm a smug motherfucker. 


I wasn't talking about Buck Rogers in the twenty fifth fuckin' century. I was talking about the past, present, and immediate future. I've been listening to clairvoyants predict a technologically automated future for the past several decades now, and guess what? I still order at the drive-thru, and they still pick my trash up every week.

  

A rather simplistic analysis? Yes, neither was I writing a research paper for the Pope or any other smug motherfucker. the truth is, a brief essay along with that particular video snippet pretty much came to me about the same time, and that's good enough for me, so you know what you can do with your snide remark?

  

Technology aside, it doesn't take a rocket scientist (nor clairvoyant) to conclude that population increase over a finite area will eventually lead to problems, and 'simple' is good - it can often be your friend. You know who often indulges in the complicated? People that don't know what the fuck they are talking about as if lead down some entropic road to chaos and confusion.

  

Anyway, words and predictions can be like "reservations", people can make them, and everyone has them, but of course no one can ever be absolutely certain what awaits them...    

  


   

Close enough.

 

Edit : It keeps turning my paragraphs into a wall of text and a bunch of other shit.

Well said, CC.
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Feb 9 '22
I have crossed oceans of time for an opportunity to use that particular clip, finally.
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