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Wolfie
Wolfie Aug 11 '21
This thread will be used to share articles regarding China's expansion efforts and the USA's responses.


Remember I have predicted that by 2026 the USA and China will be at war.


U.S. warns Middle East allies not to give China a military base

Nutzack Mendez Esquire
https://asia.nikkei.com/...-China-who-would-win


This person has a slightly different timeframe for war at 10-15 years down the road. 


China will get bases in poor African countries. Then the NATO sanction game starts with the countries that support China.  Then they'll start moving warheads and forces. 


Americans haven't had the threat of total annihilation since the 60's. 


It will have that Retro cold war feel before too long.  China/Russia/A few scattered allies like Iran vs. the rest of the world. 




Think they'll bring back duck and cover?


Obligatory Iron Maiden.

The Forum post is edited by Nutzack Mendez Esquire Aug 11 '21
Nutzack Mendez Esquire
Personally, I think it's about Taiwan. 


All land China has a claim over will be used and taken at some point. 


https:///...r-u-s-could-n1262148


If that happens China is saying,  "We are going to go take back Taiwan and remove all ROC soveirgn claim, who is gonna stop us?"   It will be indirect baiting to war.  The global presence seems like a precipitous strategic move to project might in the event of The PRC making well on their promise to unify all their territory. 


Might have to stop being World Police on this one. 


The Forum post is edited by Nutzack Mendez Esquire Aug 11 '21
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Aug 15 '21
I was worried about China back in 2015. Because of sheer numbers I figured they must have one hell of a military.


Russia, not so much. I actually saw Putin at some Q&A where Russian citizens were asking questions and interacting with him and he seemed pretty cool. Some don't take kindly to that assessment though.


I don't give a shit about Trump, but I thought it was cool hearing about how well he was getting along with Putin.

Phil_Lopian
Phil_Lopian Aug 15 '21
What would Sin Jones [Sin3] say about the current situation between China and America, and a potential war? 


Sin3 used to be so active. She had an opinion about everything. 

Baphomets Mod
Baphomets Aug 16 '21
He's doing better and recovering. Hold the triggers.
Wolfie
Wolfie Aug 16 '21
China shares a 50 mile border with Afghanistan.


For China, the return of the Taliban poses more risk than opportunity


Anna
Anna Aug 17 '21
@Wolfie,

It seems China has smelled some opportunity in Taliban ruled Afghanistan:


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/17/taliban-in-afghanistan-china-may-exploit-rare-earth-metals-analyst-says.html


China and Russia were the first ones to offer readiness to keep diplomatic relations with Talibans.

Wolfie
Wolfie Aug 17 '21
A good and useful article, Anna. Rare earths will be the new oil, apparently. They're used in electronics, clean energy, aerospace, cars, and defense. China and the Taliban are surely both laughing at the United States right now. Which is not to say the USA should have stayed in Afghanistan. We shouldn't have been there in the first place, except in the capacity that China will now be in; I.e., doing business with a credible business partner, which the Taliban are, despite their asinine and nauseating misogyny. This is especially true since, if we were doing business with the Taliban, they wouldn't be flying jets into our skyscrapers.


Here again we see that China is playing chess while the United States is playing checkers, and the discrepancy is all the more glaring because the United States is forever trying to keep its good guy badge shiny, while China couldn't care less about such counter-productive bullshit.


Wolfie
Wolfie Aug 17 '21
Interestingly, all of the BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) have notable rare earths deposits. The first four have high volumes and the fifth has the world's highest quality.


When the United States finally goes to war with China, I expect Russia, India, Brazil, and South Africa to side with China. Economically, the battle lines are already being drawn. And make no mistake: Economics is the deciding factor in war, as to why it starts, who's on which side, and ultimately, as to who wins.



  

Baphomets Mod
Baphomets Aug 17 '21
It's all a masquerade. Until the real party gets down.
Cornelius Coburn
Cornelius Coburn Aug 18 '21
I prefer not to think about all the nuclear weapons that could be involved. I don't believe in a primordial god that would intervene such a matter, and Nagasaki and Hiroshima WAS allowed to happen.

 

I would like to believe that the current universal 'order' would not allow it again.

Wolfie
Wolfie Aug 20 '21
China won't repeat USA's mistakes in Afghanistan


The USA's constant need to earn its good guy merit badge (publicly) leaves it with a stupid and weak foreign policy. Meanwhile, China has the sense to base all foreign policy on its own economic and military interests: this is sharp-and-strong-minded.


The United States disgusts me. Not one drop of moralism should ever enter into foreign policy, yet moralism drenches every inch of the USA's (public) objectives. This is why China outmaneuvers us at every turn.


I'm starting to wonder if war will come even sooner than I thought. The clearer it becomes that the United States is losing the peace in every corner of the globe, the more attractive war will look to politicians who want to rule the world but don't have the balls or the stomach to do so by ruthlessly projecting peacetime power - so they'll hand the baton to people who do have the balls and the stomach for ruthlessly projecting power at the point of a gun (the generals and admirals of the armed forces).


donot
donot Aug 24 '21
You still consider as USA is god, plus China and any regional power. Excuse me if I hadn't understood it right but, there is a global unrest. I do not think the rest of the world cares about the US nuclears, because there are the Russian countermeasures, I think global politics count on that. It just doesn't seem right to me China intervention in Afghanistan, it will never happen. 


 Plus, the immediate evacuation has only happened due to Talibans? 

The Forum post is edited by donot Aug 24 '21
Nutzack Mendez Esquire

*** Conspiracy Hiatus ***


All Hail World Trade! 


What matters more than stock indexing and venture capital anyway. 


These are all tail wagging invasions of Albania so everyone can make-believe everyone isn't already sewn ass-to-mouth in a global centipede of market cap excrement. No one that matters is to going to ever really do anything anyway. They have greater concerns. 


At the end of the day every country works like a rich white man with a small dick. They all just want extravagant big, tall, and long things. 



[USA - GDS (Global dick size) rank: 1]



[China - GDS Rank - 2] 



[Japan - GDS Rank - 3]



[UAE - GDS Rank - 29th]  



[Malaysia - GDS Rank - 36th] 


Other countries, such as India (Not pictured), have a large global cock (#4) but it is predominantly in the supply part of the chain. Like Doctors, textile workers, and Western tech support. 




The Forum post is edited by Nutzack Mendez Esquire Aug 24 '21
donot
donot Sep 8 '21
Breakthroughs take some time to be apprehended by society.  Imagine if you had to explain the Stock Market to a cannibal. Not saying the Stock Market is alright, there's still a lot of cannibals in it. That's not a reason to say it's wrong and should be banned. 


Though I liked economical centipede. 


Ass to mouth is ATM? 

The Forum post is edited by donot Sep 19 '21
Aborior Translatione
This is relevant for this thread. 


Seems old Joe isn't that much different than the Don after all. Even being criticized for using Trump era policy to use Austrailia to build up a defence network for the coming world war with China. 


We even got to fuck over the French. 


Now the real reason for the Austrailian/UK agreement.


Apart from arming the Aussies it was a good move to let Russia build the pipeline Putin owns. They're  now less likely to help China over the West.  


All lining up to China & North Korea vs. The World.


The Forum post is edited by Aborior Translatione Sep 22 '21
donot
donot Sep 28 '21
Big money always gets the most of it. We always take care of our backyard, but in the end Big money gets the most of it . It's very difficult since everybody is caring about their well-being. 
Phil_Lopian
Phil_Lopian Sep 28 '21
This is what I think of China:



Knievel74 Member
Knievel74 Oct 2 '21
As far as a war with China the US has already lost. Look at how many US businesses have moved to China, or that China has already spent $300 billion dollars (so far) buying US real estate including farmland. And China pretty much controls Hollywood. You can't produce a big budget film that will be marketed in China without a representative of China approving the script. Just look up Alibaba Group. They're a Chinese conglomerate.
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