This article is fun:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/why-being-bullied-haunts-more-022559415.html
Am I missing something? When I was a kid, there was no talk about bullying. When other kids teased you, you either insulted them back or ignored the motherfuckers. I don't recall any acts of physical violence. That was prohibited. But calling each other names not so much.
Now there seems to be a demand for support groups for the victims and survivors. Are children now more cruel than they used to be years ago? Or is it mere fostering of the victim mentality? Should adults react when children fight each other, either physically or verbally, or just let them resolve the issue among themselves? Doesn't protecting the weak make them even more fragile?
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Brother Shamus
Nov 5 '18
Zero Tolerance and mandatory minimum suspensions for offenders, for our kid's kids.
Time was the punishment for kids being kids was doled out to whomever lost the fight.
The Forum post is edited by Brother Shamus Nov 5 '18
Anna
Nov 5 '18
Children are as shitty as adults. Why should they be any better? The problem is though that many adults still believe children are, or at least, should be innocent. That's some bullshit.
Those children who seem to be bullied aren't tolerated for a reason. I was kind of a nerd at school. I was pretty socially awkward, terribly shy and insecure so I was occasionally picked on. However, I was also one of the best students. There were only three of us. The rest of the kids were rather poor in nearly all school subjects and completely sucked at Maths. So they needed help every time there was some homework to be done or the test was coming. So they turned to me, they even came to my home. Generally, I was accepted, even defended. Some ass-kissing was involved too. From personal experience I know that even if your social skills are poor but you're intelligent, you can get by at school.
It's different if one is a downright retard. They lack social skills and they lack intellectual skills. So they have nothing to offer to the group. It's very important. To have something you can offer to others. Otherwise, why expect any consideration from them? It doesn't concern only children but also adults. All those skills can be worked on. You can't change your personality altogether but you can evolve and adapt. So if you're a teacher and see a disliked child, instead of forcing other children to pretend they like him or her, encourage him or her to adapt, to make some progress.
And as much as it must suck to be raped as a child, ffs, for how long can one dwell on the childhood traumas?
Those children who seem to be bullied aren't tolerated for a reason. I was kind of a nerd at school. I was pretty socially awkward, terribly shy and insecure so I was occasionally picked on. However, I was also one of the best students. There were only three of us. The rest of the kids were rather poor in nearly all school subjects and completely sucked at Maths. So they needed help every time there was some homework to be done or the test was coming. So they turned to me, they even came to my home. Generally, I was accepted, even defended. Some ass-kissing was involved too. From personal experience I know that even if your social skills are poor but you're intelligent, you can get by at school.
It's different if one is a downright retard. They lack social skills and they lack intellectual skills. So they have nothing to offer to the group. It's very important. To have something you can offer to others. Otherwise, why expect any consideration from them? It doesn't concern only children but also adults. All those skills can be worked on. You can't change your personality altogether but you can evolve and adapt. So if you're a teacher and see a disliked child, instead of forcing other children to pretend they like him or her, encourage him or her to adapt, to make some progress.
And as much as it must suck to be raped as a child, ffs, for how long can one dwell on the childhood traumas?
Anna
Nov 16 '18
Well yes. But don't these new trends in children's behavior reflect attitudes of many adults? For example, the obsession with pedophiles. Come on, nowadays merely patting a child on the head (it doesn't have to be an ass) can be interpreted by sensitive and vigilant adults as a sign of perverse inclinations.
The Forum post is edited by Anna Nov 16 '18
Dark Enlightenment
Nov 16 '18
The magical "M" word that makes the full growns disappear? Why would a kid lie or have a coerced/false memory? "The eyebrows man touched me, Mommy."Are children now more cruel than they used to be years ago?
I think yes because social media increase the vocabulary on children which makes them able to misuse their position as the innocent ones. I have heard people experiences children say like "if you do not let me play I will get your fired". There have also been cases when children falsely has claimed teachers to sexual abuse them because they did not liked them.
On the other hand....
If literature, cartoons, or allegories have taught us anything it's that children will inevitably divide into factions and go to war when lacking direction.
* Piggy dies in every scenario and culture prior to 1993.
The Forum post is edited by Dark Enlightenment Nov 16 '18
Anna
Nov 19 '18
But is this because children have changed or the society on the whole became more liberalized and permissive?
Anna
Nov 19 '18
Yeah but technology is just a tool. I think that children reflect more or less and in somewhat grotesque manner the morals of the society they live in. And our society is becoming increasingly taboo-free. Or I should say that the old-fashioned taboos are replaced by the liberal political correctness. In the consumer oriented world, why should anyone respect teachers, for example? They are here to serve me, the child thinks, and whom did he take such an attitude from, if not from adults?
Luciferi Baphomet
Feb 7 '19
All I know is my childhood was scary, violent, & unpredictable. & that was at home. Achool was like letting others get a turn to abuse me. Actually, I was remembering earlier when I was in 4th grade my teacher would make me look stupid & would single me out for ridicule. I was so scared of her I started peeing myself instead of asking to go to the bathroom. Then I got a beating at home.They say that school is the safest place... But not really.
darkravenus666
Feb 3 '21
There is no such thing as a "victim mentality" in my opinion.
The Forum post is edited by darkravenus666 Feb 3 '21
Anna
Feb 4 '21
Why? I swear I worked with such a bitch for a couple of months until she resigned because "Everyone hated her." These people are master manipulators. Don't be fooled by hissy fits and hours-long weeping sessions.
G.B.
Feb 15 '21
roughly 30 years ago, i remember my schooltime to be quite violent. i went to school in germany and in australia, bullying and violent fights were the daily norm.
fights didn´t involve guns or knives though. on occasions knuckledusters, rock-throwing, cricket bats, chairs and other stufff was used as weaponry. noone ever got killed, a few hospitalizations, smashed out teeth, a few broken bones and noses. one kid lost an eye. but that wasn´t about bullying, that was fights between rivals.
bullying just meant fists and kicks and pushing over and general mental torment against outsider kids.
i was bullyed throughout my whole schooltime, straight up till the last day.
my christian upbringing by my mom taught me to not defend myself, give the other cheek. my mom said if i defended myself it would only make things worse, man what a load of garbage, worst tip ever. i was the outsider, hardly any friends and just tried to keep to myself.
teachers partially did not care about bullying, they did not want to get involved, and others did, but they really couldn´t do much. my 4th grade teacher actually bullied me every morning and encouraged my classmates to bully me too. she really hated germans, and i was the german kid in an australian school, not a fun time.
in later classes, with teens, there was some violence and bullying against teachers on a few occasions. my poor 8th grade math teacher, she was bullied by my classmates so badly she cried in class regularily.
from people i know today here in germany, violence is just as much the norm today as i remember it to be during my schooltime.
one crazy thing i remember in australia, there were regular nightly raids by gangs of teens, smashing the whole school, classroom by classroom. at least once a year this would happen, i hated school and was very happy when this happened. didn´t happen in germany, but german schools had a completely different layout.
when you read the books by mark brandon "chopper" read, writing about his schooltime violence during the 60´s in australia victoria, i get the feeling violence was always part of being in school, not a new thing.
The Forum post is edited by G.B. Feb 15 '21
talisman
Feb 17 '21
Friends backed me when I had been bullied. Guess what, the same bullies you are talking about. There's too much Hollywood here. There's much use of stereotypes to make profits, no matter the people, whether they're offended or offenders.
Wolfie
May 23 '21
I was habitually picked on at school, but not in my own neighborhood. The dichotomy of my two environments worked against me. My neighborhood wasn't a jungle. My school was. I was well adapted to my neighborhood but not to my school. This was compounded by the fact that what my parents taught me was adapted to my neighborhood but not to my school.
What I needed to understand was how to be two different people. In my neighborhood I could be warm. At school I needed to be cold.
It wasn't till years later that I learned how to be cold.
