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I think that "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot comes close to at least a beginning of a concept of what it might be.  I definitely think there is way more to it than seems obvious and Quantum Physics seems to be telling us very much the same things that yogis, mystics, etc have been telling us for thousands of years.

While I maintain one should always be skeptical and questioning of philosophies and spirituality, etc but keep an open-mind, there is much more than meets the eye, as I sincerely believe LaVey was trying to tell us and why he included self-empowering rituals and magic in his works and was not a strict materialist.

By the way I apologize for my unintentional skill at run-on sentences LOLz

Perhaps one reason that governments fear dissociative or psychedelic drugs is that they weaken the ego and reveal this to us, showing the whole of human society and organized civilization as being the insanity that it is, the house of cards that it is, and the sand it is built on; they interfere with the chaoskampf.  It's quite hard to worry about "ordinary" concerns like elections and taxes when you find yourself stupefied at trying to comprehend the world without the benefit of cultured heuristics and stereotypes.

It seems interesting, therefor, that the first orderly civilizations had mythologies wherein creation often involves a God slaying the dragon of Chaos, as with Marduk and Tiamat, Yahweh and Leviathan, or Ra and Apep.  Conversely, the Vedic and Chinese sources are similar yet depict reality as emanating from Chaos rather than being strewn from it or resulting from its slaying, just look at their depiction of Brahman or the Dao -- go and compare the Upanishads with the Dao De Jing and you'll find a number of similarities.

For me the Universe is really really huge "infinate" to many galaxies and stars with the possibility that there are  planets like Earth and species similar or more evolved 

then us,I believe that the ancient "egypt" civilization that had high technology and high knowledge they could be Niphilim, Demons,Giants or they could be also Alians in reality  controlling 

everything around us.

Taking the "Big Bang Theory," the "Multiverse Theory," Singularity and my all time favorite question (How does existence exist?) into consideration; my concept arose.

It's actually quite simple. On the premise of the Big Bang Theory, the universe exists as a result of "singularity." Prior to the birth of our universe (based on discoveries in physics and astronomy) there was nothing; only non-existence. To me, that "non-existence" is an existence in itself. And furthermore, how could something like singularity exist in something non-existent anyways?; it wouldn't seem plausible. That would be comparable to the first human baby being "born" unto nothingness, when common knowledge tells us two humans are needed for that to occur. That may have been a very bad analogy, but the point intended is that: In order for an existence to be produced into existence, a prior existence would have had to have preexisted. Ultimately, this concept gives me an answer to my own question about existence; it always existed. (please bare with me people, my knowledge of the latter is quite limited) 

Okay so now, getting back to the universe. Considering the big void of nothingness that created a beautiful universe such as ours, could we not deem it safe to assume that other universes have been created prior, during and after ours was birthed. If a woman can give birth to six babies in one pregnancy, why not... right? (I know, another bad analogy) But hey, we live in a world where possibilities are endless. <sidebar> I wouldn't be surprised if there were a multitude of universes identical to ours where the only difference would be: reality. Moving right along, amicably. That void seems to be a place where space and time has always existed. And since space and time is infinite and pretty much immeasurable; there would/should be no reason why there isn't an infinite number of universes either. 

Also, I would like to add that I have read some of Stephen Hawkings writings. In one of them, it explains what a "Black Hole" is. And I quote: "A massive star starts to collapse when it exhausts its nuclear fuel and can no longer counteract the inward pull of gravity. The crushing weight of the star’s overlying layers implodes the core, and the star digs deeper into the fabric of space-time. Although the star remains barely visible, its light now has a difficult time climbing out of the enormous gravity of the still-collapsing core. The star passes through its event horizon and disappears from our universe, forming a singularity of infinite density." 

With that said, it's quite possible that the formed singularity is a bridge to that void earlier spoken about. And if that's the case, that same void that birthed our universe would also serve as one of two things (or possibly both): As a big network of universes with the void serving as a "highway" to them all and/or, serving as a "bridge" to other parts of our own universe. Either way, when it comes to our universe, one concept for sure is that it is infinite.

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Quote from maxstirner Well you did post that right after I made my post and mentioned the topic, so you can see how I thought you were replying to me?

By that same logic it would have been a reply addressed specifically to
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I can only see how you're trying to cover up your admitted entitlement under an apologetic.