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EpicFail TITS
EpicFail May 30 '18
I believe I entered this world a child of lucifer.  very early in life I had and an obsession with the occult. It's like I was born this way.. does anyone have thoughts?


Anna
Anna May 30 '18
My mom had so many lovers that I never knew who my father was. But in early childhood I had a dream in which Satan himself came to me and said I was his daughter and the only heiress. So I believe that after death I will become the queen of hell.
Troll Member
Troll Jun 13 '18
Being born a Satanist is much easier than becoming the only child of some god or demon. For one, Satanism as a philosophy was constructed so as to appeal to a great many people of indulgent persuasion. Additionally, there is a convention in witchcraft and Satanist religion of 'discovering that you've always been of that religion or philosophy', usually when reading the preferred literature of the cult (The Satanic Bible, the Book of Shadows, whatever). And as for becoming Lucifer's or Satan's child, it's a thing out of folk tales, legends, and superordinary hero tales like Jesus stories, but it bears no more reality than do Son of Satan or Satana comics.

GoetiaGordon
GoetiaGordon Jul 1 '18
No.
Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jul 1 '18

Question: "Do you belief person can born satanist?"

Quote from GoetiaGordon No.


You're here for "the dark arts", I'm guessing. Nothing more than shunned and relegated Judeo-Christian mysticism. Stripping it down to what one is doing is the key.


Christians pray to god to fulfill wants and needs.

Magicians invoke blah blah, light candles, or chant things to fulfill wants and needs.

Both use the idea that something is there to feel like causality will reconfigure itself to give them their wish.  All the while ignoring that awesome things happened out of nowhere before they ever gave a shit what magic was.

The tendency towards retroactive confirmation bias is endemic here. People tend to get this belief tunnel vision that blocks out the peripheral aspects that may invalidate the belief altogether. Most of the time selectively discarded, because doing so works for them.

I feel this is EXACTLY what "born" entails. It's the same old indoctrination driving their behavior. Most fall right into this line of belief that is right at home on a world where the cornerstone of attainment is through faith.

What about that thing that makes one ask, "Why the fuck do they all do that?"
The Forum post is edited by Dark Enlightenment Jul 1 '18
EpicFail TITS
EpicFail Jul 3 '18

Quote from Dark Enlightenment

Question: "Do you belief person can born satanist?"

Quote from GoetiaGordon No.



The tendency towards retroactive confirmation bias is endemic here. People tend to get this belief tunnel vision that blocks out the peripheral aspects that may invalidate the belief altogether. Most of the time selectively discarded, because doing so works for them. What about that thing that makes one ask, "Why the fuck do they all do that?"
Makes sense. ty
Goddess
Goddess Jul 3 '18
I'm going to say ..yes because I've felt like that too only not his daughter, but his wife.  And the dreams only become more vivid and reoccurring as I get older. And the seems are longer and I member the words more clearly than when I was a kid. 
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Dark Enlightenment
Dark Enlightenment Jul 3 '18
Actually that stems from your father, step-father, or older male family member warping you good.
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Lucifero Satanas Member
Lucifero Satanas Jul 3 '18
I believe all children are born atheists until they are told a lie. When I first read "the satanic bible" I saw sort of a reflection of myself. I saw my true self projected on to that book. I was a young teen. 14, I think. And I still agree with my younger self. I think if humans were allowed to be their natural self, without "golden rules" and religion getting involved, and they read that same book at an advanced age, they would agree with it as well to some extent. Then they'd probably dismiss it as a book written by a crazy man.
EpicFail TITS
EpicFail Jul 4 '18

Quote from Lucifero Satanas I believe all children are born atheists until they are told a lie. When I first read "the satanic bible" I saw sort of a reflection of myself. I saw my true self projected on to that book. I was a young teen. 14, I think. And I still agree with my younger self. I think if humans were allowed to be their natural self, without "golden rules" and religion getting involved, and they read that same book at an advanced age, they would agree with it as well to some extent. Then they'd probably dismiss it as a book written by a crazy man.
I agree


SamaelSwine
SamaelSwine Jul 7 '18
I think basically all humans are born Satanists in the sense that I prefer to think of Satanism as a totally tubular metaphor for atheism, and that without people telling us there's a god above when we're kids, nobody would believe in god.


But you can get get real hair splitty if you want here. Because maybe there is a certain personality type that comes about because of genetics, environment, and some combination of both that leads people to buck against whatever the prevailing ideologies in their society are. These people are the born Satanists, whether their culture has a god or devil figure or not. And as this rebel phenotype exists, so does a conformist phenotype. So yes, but there's more than one way to get that yes.

ccline
ccline Sep 4 '18
I can relate to your interest in the occult at a young age. I have always been fascinated with darker art and music at a very young age! I dont think I had a calling , but I feel ive always been in tune with the spiritual realm over the physical realm. 
Obscura TITS
Obscura Sep 4 '18
Sometimes it happens, with much regret.  Truthfully, I never really had a choice in the matter.  At 7, when I read Revelations, I thought the Woman Clothed in the Sun and the Dragon belonged together and she was having a lovers spat pregnant with his child.  I think some of us are born inherently fucked up and drawn to the sinister.  No matter how much we may fight it, we may still end up obsessively studying the occult and playing around the mudbucket of the Sitra Ahra from elementary school on.  Without the Satanic, I would be one of those artisanal cupcake bakers married to her football high school sweetheart.  But even all the archdemons can't stop me from being a dumb blonde ditz.  Mammilian nature.  So the Satanic will only take you so far.
Scorbius
Scorbius Sep 16 '18
I don't think I was born a Satanist. I became one after being introduced to the "Satanic Bible" at age 17 and kept searching about Satan (I'm a theistic Satanist) to know more about him. 

I knew I was drawn to Satan the moment I learned about him. The churches I went to never mentioned him (in the sermons that the pastor preached) so it was through LaVey. It opened a door for me. 


HS

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